Rick Warren: Fundamentalism... "one of the big enemies..."

True or not?


Steven Colbert Interview: "Are you a fundamentalist preacher?"

Rick Warren: "No. A fundamentalist is somebody who stops listening. There are fundamentalist Christians, fundamentalist  Jews, fundamentalist Muslism, fundamentalist atheist, fundamentalist Secularist.... Its an attitude that doesn't listen to anyone else."

      "God get's enjoyment out of watching you be you. [-speaking to Colbert turns God's Word into jokes] ... When my children were little, I used to watch them sleep at night.... I got so much pleasure out that, cause I made them. I'm their Daddy....  When you be you, God looks down and He goes, 'That's my boy!'" ...  [Even if you're not "born again" into His family?]

Colbert: "If you ask Jesus to come into your life, will he?" 

Rick Warren: "Absolutely. [Even if you've never been convicted of sins, learned about the Biblical Jesus, repented, or heard the true whole Gospel?]


This preview was prompted by the following note from Lighthouse Trails Research Project:

January 10, 2006: According to a news story in the January 8th edition of the Philadelphia Inquirer, Rick Warren says Christian fundamentalism will be an enemy of the 21st century.

Excerpt from article: "Warren predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be 'one of the big enemies of the 21st century.'  ... 'Muslim fundamentalism, Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, secular fundamentalism - they're all motivated by fear. Fear of each other.'" ["The purpose-driven pastor"]

What does Rick Warren define Christian Fundamentalism to be?
In a May 2005 interview between Rick Warren and the Pew Forum on Religion, Warren stated:

"Today there really aren't that many Fundamentalists left; I don't know if you know that or not, but they are such a minority; there aren't that many Fundamentalists left in America ... Now the word 'fundamentalist' actually comes from a document in the 1920s called the Five Fundamentals of the Faith. And it is a very legalistic, narrow view of Christianity." Quote by Rick Warren, May 2005

What are those Five Fundamentals of the Faith? [From www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/pewreligion.htm#fundamentals]

1.      The Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:1; John 20:28; Hebrews 1:8-9).

2.      The Virgin Birth (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:27).

3.      The Blood Atonement (Acts 20:28; Romans 3:25, 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 9:12-14).

4.      The Bodily Resurrection (Luke 24:36-46; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, 15:14-15).

5.      The inerrancy of the scriptures themselves (Psalms 12:6-7; Romans 15:4; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20).


See also Spirit-Led or Purpose-Driven? Part 4: Dealing with Resisters:

"When a human body is out of balance we call that disease.... Likewise, when the body of Christ becomes unbalanced, disease occurs.... Health will occur only when everything is brought back into balance. The task of church leadership is to discover and remove growth-restricting diseases and barriers so that natural, normal growth can occur." Rick Warren, The Purpose Driven Church, page 16.

Scott Peck, famed author of The Road Less Traveled, used the same analogy. "There's a term therapists use; it's 'resistance,'" he wrote in Reflections on Leadership, "which refers to people who don't like to or want to be healed or converted, so they resist."[5, page 92]


Yes, those who trust the fundamental truths in God's Word for guidance will look like enemies to church leaders who demand conformity to man's social guidelines.  Those who refuse to compromise their faith cannot share the global vision for pluralistic solidarity. Unwilling to set aside God's "divisive" old truths, they cannot march to the drum beat of facilitators trained to manipulate minds and mold collective thinkers. 

Here are a few links and summaries that expose the conflict and confusion that surround the word "fundamentalism." The first link offers a Biblical definition and explanation. The others expose the world's hatred for Biblical truth:

Are We Fundamentalists?  There are now two kinds of evangelical....  The old is the authentic, biblical position.  The new is far off the track, not in its basic view of salvation, but in its readiness to compromise with doctrinal error and worldly ways. The new is selling the faith for earthly respect and recognition... and churches are being ruined.

     "Today, old-style evangelicals are in the minority....  This booklet attempts to give a clear picture of the present alarming scene, in order to encourage believers to take a clear stand.

     "Old -style evangelicals are often called fundamentalists, particularly in the USA. New -style evangelicals adopted the term, 'new evangelical' to describe themselves in the 1950s. ...We are told that the fundamentalist label was first coined in America in 1920 to describe militant evangelicals. ... It would be fairer to say that fundamentalist is someone who cares about the defense and preservation of the Gospel..." More

 


Postmodernism and You: "To the majority of Americans below fifty today, questioning the truthfulness of another's religious views is intolerant and morally offensive. This prohibition against differing with other's viewpoints is postmodern. Strangely, it turns out that one exception is allowed.... it's okay to question and even denounce religious views when dealing with what is pejoratively labeled 'fundamentalism.' Today, when people refer to 'fundamentalists' they no longer mean just religious extremists like the Shiites waging holy war against the West. Today, fundamentalism may refer to anyone who claims to know truth or who charges another religion with falsehood." See Modern versus Postmodern Culture


Ministries will Restructure, as will Churches, Businesses, Individuals, and Families: "While preparing to minister in Dallas on January 5, I heard the Holy Spirit very clearly say, 'Tell them...' I quickly grabbed a pen and wrote the following as it was given to me:

     "'Opposition to the apostolic and prophetic will also be the greatest this year.' He is going to expose wineskins (new or old) and religious spirits, taking off the masks of those who oppose His move. Those who refuse to move in current truth will begin to openly criticize leaders in the Body of Christ that are moving in the flow of the apostolic and the prophetic. Some have been doing so in a very subtle way, but this year, it will become obvious. When they do, God is going to begin to judge them....
      "'I must bring further changing of paradigms, not just to those who have not been moving in the flow of My Spirit, but even to those who are in the flow of My Spirit.' I heard Him say, "Restructure, Restructure, Restructure."
     "Ministries will restructure, churches will restructure, businesses will restructure, individuals will restructure (the way they do things, their time, the way they think, and the way they operate), and families will restructure.
     "Teaching on the kingdom of God will bring about great changes of paradigms, taking us back to the original mandate of Genesis.... Kingdom theology is going to be at the forefront."
 


Fundamentalism Education Project (link apparently obsolete): "The growing influence of fundamentalist religious movements poses a challenge to our mainstream religious communities, civic freedoms, and our safety and well-being. This phenomenon is of concern to mainstream religious leaders and their congregations because fundamentalists create sharp divisions among communities of faith.... Religious clergy and lay people have immense interest in understanding and exposing how fundamentalists distort the inclusive messages within Christianity, Judaism, and Islam...

       "Understanding and countering this phenomenon is important for all of us.... The Texas Faith Network is organizing the Fundamentalism Education Project to provide resources for clergy, lay people, activists and others about religious fundamentalism, and to energize and organize religious leaders to rightfully reclaim the compassionate and tolerant foundations within their respective religious traditions." This fits right into UNESCO's Declaration on the role of religion.

Bush, Gorbachev, Shultz and Soviet Education: "'There really is only one sin--separateness,' Corinne McLaughlin states in her book. '...war is more likely to spring from rampant nationalism, ethnocentrism, and intolerant religious fundamentalism -- all extreme and separative attitudes.... [A} primary cause of the earth's suffering is that humanity is caught in the illusion of separation.... What is needed as a cure for separateness is a deep sense of community -- that we're all in this together.' Mikhail Gorbachev shares her contempt for nationalism and religious fundamentalism, i.e. Biblical Christianity."

Why 9-11? "...after the Oklahoma City bombing and after the downing of TWA Flight 800, the Clinton administration's FBI put out a report on terrorism. It was called Project Megiddo. And it explained... that right-wing Christian terrorists posed the gravest danger to the republic and were most likely to incite violence in the months and years ahead.... Right-wing Christians were the perceived threat. They were the enemy. Islamists got short shrift in the FBI report." John 16:2 and Preparing for Persecution

The UN Plan for Your Mental Health: "Children who refuse to conform may be considered handicapped. According to a Teacher Training Manual from the National Training Institute for Applied Behavioral Science, 'Although they appear to behave appropriately and seem normal by most cultural standards, they may actually be in need of mental health care in order to help them change, adapt, and conform to the planned society in which there will be no conflict of attitudes or beliefs.'"
 

Anarchist website targets Christians: "The American Family Association is likened to Afghanistan's fundamentalist Taliban movement at the website infoshop.org, which describes itself as 'your online anarchist community.'... It invites visitors to 'join us as we kick some dirt into their graves, burying their hideous fascism once and for all.'" Matt 24:9

 

Redefining 'terrorism' threatens our liberty: "In the Dec. 17 Newsweek, Anna Quindlen draws first blood in her column 'The Terrorists Here at Home.' What 'terrorists' does she refer to? Abortion opponents, whom she characterizes as ultraviolent. Quindlen writes: 'There's no real ideological difference between these people and the people who flew planes into the World Trade Center....'  By blurry implication, she tars the entire pro-life movement as violent." Luke 6:22-23

 

Christianity Under Siege: The Stones Cry Out: "Around the world, Christians not only are being subjected to name calling, they also are being denied basic rights. They are being killed or forcibly converted to Islam. In the United States they are one way or another being forced to convert to a brand of secular humanism gleaned from Hegel, Marx, Freud, Marcuse, Gramsci, Dewey, Maslow, Rogers and Darwin and the entire pantheon of secular gods. If they are not converted, they are silenced in a thousand subtle and not so subtle ways. ..."  See Preparing for Persecution, Luke 6:22-23 and The Mainstream Media

Christians a 'hate group' (link apparently obsolete): "Much of the manual prepared by President Bill Clinton's attorney general, already used to indoctrinate an untold number of law enforcement agencies in this state, has stirred disquiet in the ranks of the West Virginia Family Foundation.... Under 'hate group ideology' identification, for instance, it is written, 'Homophobia recently has been added to their agenda.' ...The same section identifies some hate-mongers as those who 'blame the federal government, an international Jewish conspiracy or communism for most of this country's problems.'
      "Another catch phrase which has crept into the vocabulary of hate crime law advocates is 'domestic terrorism.' An 8-hour course, billboarded on the West Virginia State Police Academy, is titled simply 'Domestic Terrorism,' and topics advertised are 'philosophies of hate and anti-government groups,' and threats such people pose."
See Clinton's War on Hate Bans Christian Values

 

The Enemy of The People?  (After Oklahoma Bombing) "Day after day, the media's accusing pens pointed to suspected foes of American togetherness -- those whose 'enraged rhetoric' had created a national 'climate of hate and paranoia.' ... 'Their coalition," said Time, 'included well known-elements of far-right thought: tax protesters, Christian homeschoolers, conspiracy theorists...' All were implicated, for all had questioned the government's growing control over local schools, private property, and personal lives.'...

     "We shouldn't be surprised. The Bible tells us that 'the whole world is under the control of the evil one,' and he has always despised God and His people. Today, as our culture shifts to the global paradigm, political and educational 'change agents' are turning biblical values upside down.

     "Emotional appeals work. It's easier to shout, 'Stop spreading hate!' than to encourage rational debate. It's more effective to discredit discerning citizens by linking them to violent anarchists than to give factual answers to legitimate questions. It's quicker to invalidate unwanted information by tying it to wild speculations than to provide honest responses -- especially when facts and truth would undermine the planned transformation.

     "History has shown that nothing crushes well-informed resistance faster than well-planned disinformation and false accusations. Nothing unifies a nation faster than a common enemy. Hitler knew those lessons well. He had watched the Bolshevik Revolution. His book, Mein Kampf, explains the winning strategies to any future revolutionary. Notice his insight into group psychology:

'The art of truly great popular leaders in all ages has consisted chiefly in not distracting the attention of the people, but concentrating always on a single adversary.... It is part of a great leader's genius to make even widely separated adversaries appear as if they belonged to one category, because... the recognition of various enemies all too easily marks the beginning of doubt of one's own rightness.'

"Hitler focused his fury on an influential, well educated ethnic group whose religious beliefs opposed his own. "It was a stroke of genius on the part of Hitler to find this common denominator in the Jew,' explains the Encyclopaedia Britannica. 'This enabled him to discover the Jew behind all his changing adversaries... in short, behind everybody and everything that at a given moment opposed his wishes or aroused his wrath.'" See Preparing for Persecution

 

From Mary Thompson: "...'absolutism] in the pursuit against 'absolutism/fundamentalism' is a contradiction in terms which seems to escape them. By lumping every profession of faith, without discernment, they create another form of absolutism of their own making. Their 'fundamentalism' is the denial of the existence of absolute Truth itself. They will use any militant 'ism' in the quest to denigrate fundamental Christianity, the real target."

 

Megashift (by Jim Rutz): "Pew warmers are passť. They're stuck at half past yesterday and simply are not ready for the high demands of the current explosion." Page 87

     "Why should we keep changing? Because the world is changing daily.... Old wineskins simply will not hold new wine." 142


Finally, a memorable warning by Rev. Dr. Martin Niemoeller, written July 1, 1937. Niemoeller, a committed Christian pastor who refused to conform to Hitler's rules for churches, was arrested by the Third Reich and probably tortured and killed within its cruel system for punishing dissenters.

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Trade Unionist, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time, no one was left to speak up."

 


 

For encouragement, read The Loneliness of the Christian

 

"If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.... If they persecuted Me they will persecute you... for they do not know the One who sent Me."  John 15:19-21

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