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From Jennifer:  i really think your site has a lot of discrimination on it. You seem to think that your religion is the only true one, and that all others are evil. I personally think that you're pretty close to becoming a cult.

 

Harry Potter is just a FICTION book. Fiction meaning made up, not true. just because some messed up kids think its real doesnt mean every child is as impressionable as wet clay. im a 12 year old girl and i read Harry potter. Does that make me sinful in your eyes? Just because i enjoy reading fantasy by Terry Brooks, David Eddings, and other well-known authors, doesnt mean i dont believe in god.

No, Jennifer, I'm sure you believe in some kind of god. But, from what you tell me, I assume you don't believe in the God I love.

also, think about this: why are you focusing on Harry Potter? There are a lot of other fantasy books aimed towards children. Just leave Harry Potter alone.

Why are you so offended by my warnings to Christians, Jennifer? Don't I have the same constitutional right that you do to express my concerns? Do you understand what American freedom is all about? Or has your school twisted history and American government beyond recognition?

Also, i play RPG games like Baldur's Gate 2. These are what i just said, GAMES. G-A-M-E-S.

These are my views, and i hope you put them on your site so others can read the opinions of an intelligent 12 year old. who, in my opinion, happens to be smarter than you all.

P.S. I just took the ACT test. bet you didnt when you were 12.

Yes, I can see that you feel very good about yourself. Today's schools may ignore the facts about history and our founding fathers, but you certainly deserve an "A" in self-esteem. But if I were you, I would prefer an "A" from my Lord. Please read what He has to say about your kind of wisdom:

"Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world

         "For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, but to those who are called, both Jews. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men." 1 Corinthians 1:20-25


From B.: You really find Satan, evil, and paganism in everything, don't you? Pretty soon you will be to scared to walk out the door for fear of seeing the Devil's influence.

I have told a few of my friends about you.  We both agree, you should make The Top Five Hilariously Ignorant Web Sites. All I can say is that I shall pray for you.

 


From Mere Collins: I am 13 years old, but I intend to exercise my right of free speech. I think you are taking this fight against Harry Potter too far. Nobody in the book is cursing God. The book doesn't even mention religion. I am willing to bet you haven't even read the books. These are good books. Kids enjoy them because the books are funny to read and we enjoy reading about this magic.

Why do you enjoy reading about magic, Mere?  Don't you see that real magic (not the tricks of an illusionist) has to do with faith in some kind of supernatural power and is a religious practice?

Why do you complain that we are watching too much .... like Po`kemon, and then we start reading books? The books are taking us away from TV, and Game Cube, and computers. Now you're beginning to sound hypocritical. I am not sacrelegious. I attended a private Catholic school for six years, and go to church every week. Kids know magic isn't real.

The forces behind the practice of magic are dark, deadly and very real. Please see Religion News and African Witchcraft

I think people like you are afraid of change. We won't take over the world. We promise. Magic cannot come true, so don't worry about that. In the end, Harry Potter will pass, extremely unfortunate:(, and the world will go back to its normal state. Kids with their eyes glued to the TV screen, playing extremely violent computer games, playing X-Box 24/7. Yeah the world will be a much better place without magic, won't it now? No magic, just violence! 

 

Great world you gave the kids today, man! Thanks! If you take away Harry Potter, you will be forced to take away T.A. Baron, J.R.R. Tolkein, H.G.Wells, Stephen King, Wizard of Oz, Fairy Tales, nursery rhymes (i.e. Three little piggies wen to market, etc. etc.) Disney movies, and everything else that could never happen. Magic, talking animals, paranormal, sci-fi, everything. Now that sounds like a great world.

I don't take anything away, Mere. I am stating facts and studies that show the consequences of feeding your mind occult deceptions and suggestions. I let everyone who listens make their own choices. With what actual facts -- as contrast to feel-good opinions -- can you rebut the arguments I have presented in my articles?

You claim you want to take away Harry Potter because its bad for the kids, right? If you take that away, kids won't have that little bit of magic to make their life better.

So you believe that magic makes your life better? That's a religious belief -- one that totally opposes the Christian faith you identified with earlier.

____ off Harry Potter, because if you don't, the children of the world will be forced to curse you. My friends agree too, so if you want to make a big deal out of it, America's ready.
 


From James Seren: On your website, you argue that the Harry Potter books promote evil, witchcraft, satanism, and other earth-centered religions. You also say that the Harry Potter series distorts vulnerable young minds with conniving fantasy-centered plots.

You are twisting my words, Seren.

I am writing to you because I disagree with these wholeheartedly inhumane teachings.

The Harry Potter books--and I have read them, but I am not a fan, so I am speaking from a detached point of view--have NO evil in them at all. They teach that good is always more upsetting at first than evil, but, in the end, evil will out, and good will win. Is this not exactly the same as what the Christian Holy Bible says?

One could argue that the Christian church is more harmful in itself than any book that it has tried to censor, including the Potter series. For example, they spread sexually-transmitted diseases and encourage overpopulation by advocating against the use of condoms and birth control. They Christian church teaches that their religion is the supreme one, and is exclusively true, and sincerely hate all other religions. Your religion, as says in the bible, actually provided a reason for the Burning Times, becuase of the verse that says "You shall not suffer a witch to live."

These teachings start genocidal wars around the world at all times. I hoe you realize that.

What actually causes the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, Seren?  Is it the institution of marriage and faithfulness to one partner (God's way) or is it sexual promiscuity and multiple partners -- just following your feelings and seeking self-gratification? What do condoms do? They are not fool-proof in protecting against these diseases, so they give a false sense of security. And passing out condoms helps break down any moral boundaries and intensifies the social pressure to participate in promiscuity and perversion. Think about it.


From Aradia: Let me begin by apologizing for using terms like "spoon-fed" and "half truth." Actually I won't apologize for half truth because indeed, you only know the half of it when it comes to witchcraft. What you do know is what I was refering to when I used the term "spoon-fed" and again, I see that I could have used a more tactful word.

First of all I wanted to address the fact that nowhere in any Harry Potter book is satan mentioned. And it is short-sighted on your part to say that witchcraft is poison when you've done no apparent research into the subject. If you did a little digging you might find that there are people out there who consider themselves to be both a christian and a witch, if you dig a little deeper you might even see why that would be possible. As for the lightning scar on Harrys forehead, I would never presume to know another persons thoughts so I cannot say whether or not it represents what you say it does. However, based on your own chart of symbols, the mark on Harrys head is nothing more than a lightning shaped scar. On your chart, the symbol has two s's, Harrys head has only one. And as to what it represents, according to the book it represents that love is stronger than darkness.

May I suggest you read chapters 1, 4, 7 and 9 in A Twist of FaithYou will find my research and interviews with many neo-pagans and Wiccans. Also read chapters 3, 4 and 5 in Under the Spell of Mother Earth. It will give you another glimpse of my previous research in this area. Notice that all my encounters with neo-pagans were polite and friendly. Though our beliefs differ, I do believe we can all live together in kindness and peace in America. Don't you agree?  

We should think about some of the words we throw around as well, like the word occult, it's latin based and all it means is 'hidden' or 'concealed', it's the individual who decides to attach darkness and evil to a word, What does occult mean to you? You speak of this grand marketing scheme and "getting them while they're young", aren't you doing the same? Don't you realize that the more you tell a young person that they cannot have a thing the more driven they are to get it? By the way, not ALL the parents are depicted as "hateful and strict", just Harrys.

Aradia, please do me a favor. Pick out all the references to "muggles" in the four books -- or if you like, just the first two -- and see how they are used. With what attitude is this word spoken?

I don't know if you noticed how the U.S. media -- especially popular newspapers and magazines -- used the word "muggles" after book four was published. Again and again it was used to refer to people like me who supposedly "censor" Harry Potter books (which I would not) and refuse to flow with the Harry Potter craze. 

In fact the author does a brilliant job of balancing the goodness and 'evilness' in the "muggle" and "wizarding" worlds. There are good muggle parents and bad muggle parents, there are good wizarding parents and bad ones. I am curious to know why you think you know what the authors true meaning behind her words is when you quoted her. I thought she meant that it's O.K. for young people to be creative and imaginative. Maybe she was thinking of how most of the time you're in school when you're a kid. A place where you need permission to eat, talk, even go to the bathroom. Perhaps she thought that if every once in awhile a child can daydream and create on their own terms it was a good thing. You're really pushing the envelope when you say she has a hidden agenda to corrupt the world with satan.

When did I say that, Aradia? I can't remember even suggesting such a message. Please find that quote for me so that I can change it -- that is, if indeed I made such statement anywhere. My focus has been on the books influence on the reader, not on the motives of the writer.   

Also you say that Harry Potter teaches witchcraft and it does not, nowhere in any of the four (not three) published books are there any witchcraft "lessons." They say a word, supposedly a "spell" I guess to do their "magic" but all those words are only the latin translation of the action being performed.

Did you read any of my articles, Aradia? You seem to have missed all my points.


From Teng Donghao: I have seen the ongoing debate on subject of Harry Potter. I can see an answer: it is not THE answer, but it is AN answer,and that answer is summarized as follows:

There is none.

This debate can rage on forever and ever until Jesus comes with the double edged sword and seven stars. The reason why nobody can quite get a precise answer is because no two people have the same mind, even Christians can intepret the Bible in different ways. Nobody will be able to agree on the same answer.

I disagree Teng. God shows His people the same answer on most questions dealing with right and wrong. Some issues are less clear than others, but since human nature doesn't change with time, His moral and spiritual guidelines are as clear and relevant today as in Old Testament days.

And another possible factor is that the world doesn't live by Christian values.

Right. But committed Christians do.

Probably JK Rowling isn't doing this on purpose. Normal childhood fantasies of evil wizards or magic swords aren't anywhere near satanic either. Did Jesus not say "forgive them, for they know not what they do"?

Yes, He did say that to those who put Him to death. But He holds His people responsible for knowing and following His truth. Psalm 119:11

I think that the right attitude to this issue is not to harshly condemn, or to pick out faults and blow them up to make them look big and terrifying, but just to continually evangelize. The world now, as we move into a continually technological age, will immediately dismiss magic and spirits as untrue.

No, actually the global culture is shifting back toward mysticism and occult spirituality. See America's Spiritual Slide and The Postmodern Church

Perhaps this is the best defence for young minds,to be continually reminded that Harry Potter is not real, only Jesus who died for us is real. That may not be true, but there you are.  Personally, I think that nobody would consider Harry Potter to be Satanic if nobody raised the matter.

 


From "an atheist": Having stumbled across your page when actually looking for "Harry Potter"- information, I was really worried that such things as your opinion still exist in our modern world.

First of all, please define "pagan" without insulting anybody not sharing the believe in your version of god or not adhering to "christian" standards. You insult more than half of the world by the word, which is coming a second close after "heretic" IMO. I haven't seen it own your page but I would not have been surprised to find it there.

Second, you cite the bible a lot. Well, the bible contains more fiction, violence and magic than most books I ever read. (And YES, I am a roleplayer, phantasy-fan and I do own D&D 3rd Ed. as well as 2nd and 1st among a lot of other stuff in that area, so that says a lot). Who on earth told you the bible is of any value to anybody not "christian"? So unless you can prove the bible to be less fictious than other sci-fi books, please don't (ab)use it by making it seem "the mouth of God" without any hard prove for it. Ever read the Revelation of John? Well, most (post-)apocalyptic books and films don't even dream of so phantastic a plot and scenario and would be rated "R" for the amount of violence mentioned there. And yes, I did read the bible. If it wasn't the book that is supposedly the foundation of the christian religion, parents would forbid their children to read it for exactly the same reasons you bring up for Harry Potter, because of insinuating thins that are not true.

Please read Biblical versus Cultural Christianity

Third, did you ever bother to define "witchcraft"?

Many times. You might do a website search for that word -- or for paganism. Please also read chapter 4 in A  Chapter 4 in A Twist of Faith.

Even you make it easy for yourself by defining it at "the devil's work", you'll be in trouble, because if:
- God is allmighty, as said in the bible
- Created the universe and EVERYTHING along with it
- Is omniscient
in consequence he would also have created the foundation/basics for "witchcraft". Can anything "created or foreseen by God" and not prevented be bad?

Of course. God lets human do the "bad" things they choose, then face the consequences. The painful consequences help us understand our need for God who provides the needed strength, wisdom, comfort and hope.

Aside from the fact that your definition of "witchcraft" might be "religion" to others, thus again insulting anybody not sharing your view of the world.

Fourth:
I don't know why I go on, you'll never read this, left alone post it, but I am really annoyed. People like you were responsible for the Inquisition, the Crusades, the oppression of women, and the destruction of knowledge in Europe for almost 2000 years by the roman-catholic church, killing, oppression and bigotry in the name of an entity that, if it does exist and did speak through "Jesus", did ask for tolerance, love and peace, as did intelligent and caring men all over the world for almost 5 millenia now, not all of them claiming to be god or an incarnation thereof. And people influenced by people like you, with similar close-minded attitudes in other countries and cultures are among the reason for things like what happened on the 11th of Septembre, intolerance, ignorance and close-mindedness are not restricted to "christians".

I am done, without being insulting personally and without digging up about 200 other points I could say about the whole thing.
 


From Joyce L:  I'm thankful for your website & information you provide on current issues to warn & give answers to some trying issues. It has helped me answer a number of questions posed by my 10 year old daughter on the subject of HP.

I felt that your articles provided sound advice based on God's principles set out in the Bible. As a Christian, there is such comfort in the prompting of the holy spirit confirming God's word in order for us to live our lives according to His will.

What I found annoying are the number of Christian letters and those who responded in such an appalling & negative manner to your HP articles. I can understand when non-Christians respond in that manner - as they
just do not know any better. But, as brothers & sisters in Christ, should we not be mindful that we each have the same spirit of God in us when we accept Christ as our Saviour into our hearts? By our criticism
of another Christian's opinion (especially when it's biblically- supported), are we not judging God?

I do hope that as Christians, we remember Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 12:13, "For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body - ..". Let us not start tearing this one body apart. With the love of Christ
....

 

Thank you, Joyce, for helping me make an important point. Yes, as Christians, we should be mindful of His Spirit and kind to one another. To help each other stay close to Him we need to "be ready" to "reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction...." - always, as you say, based on God's Word. The Bible explains why:

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desire; and will turn away the ears from the truth, and will turn aside to myths. But you, be sober in all things...." 2 Timothy 4:3-4


Second letter from Goku:   In response to your reply to "The Liberal" (I do not agree with a lot of what this person said to you and your group i.e. "you should die" etc.). Perhaps you should learn more about the Christian religion as well. It has its own atrocities to account for such as the inquisition, Salem witch trials (bet there were some people that were turned away from the church that day what do you say) and hundreds of years of oppression under the church rule. That was until the 15th century when it was discovered that the earth wasn't the center of the universe as the church had told us and revolutionized the world.

Wait a minute, Goku. Do you remember who fought against the political and religious establishment for the truth about the planet? Here is a clue: He proclaimed to know Christ.

Remember, in those days, most educated people were part of the Catholic church, which did persecute those who refused to conform to its ideology. But most of the heroes who stood against the establishment and fought for their faith and truth were courageous people who believed in God. See Biblical versus Cultural Christianity

Its always a hoot to discuss religion with people mostly dew to the fact that they always go back to the bible not hard facts to explain their points. They go back time and again to a fictional book wrote by men about a God that no one has ever seen. If he exists why doesn't he show himself?

He does. Again and again. One day, when I have time, I will tell you and others some wonderful stories about His loving intervention in the lives of His followers. But those who reject Him will never understand the joy of His wonderful presence.

In my opinion its because Gods sipping on some coffee with Harry Potter in never never land talking about Potter's next book.

I suggest you be more careful in the use of words. It's not a good idea to mock the God of the universe. See Galatians 6:7-8


From Paul Woeller: First, I'm a christian and second, are you related to Hilter?


Your just like that minister in New Mexico that burned the Harry Potter books and just like Hitler who burned books he didn't like or agreed with. Its people like you and the Civ. Lib that will end up destroying the USA.

 

 Where were you and all your indignation when Jimmy Swagert got caught w/ a prostitude? Or the Baker's were both found to be stealing money and bilking all those Christians. All all of the priests of all faiths molesting children. It seems to me if your going to be so vocal about sin in this world you should be working on the things that are destroying a lot of persons belief in religion and true Christian Leaders.


Harry Potter is just a book and is only being made that much more popular by you people that are whinning so much and loudly.  Get your prioritys straight. May God have mercy on you for having your head [profanity deleted].

Paul, I believe I have answered some of your concerns on this page: Biblical versus Cultural Christianity

 

But I have a question for you: If "Harry Potter is just a book", why are you and others so traumatized by my critiques?


From Ashley Robertson: First of all I want to thank you immensely for your site, and for not letting the words of hate discourage you.  The rest of this letter is to those out there who reply to your websites claiming to be Christians yet they say things such as "I hope you die" and "You will burn in hell." 

It is not the one you direct these comments to that I pity, It is you.  I am extremely proud and amazed that these God-fearing people can put up with your rude, insulting, hateful, UN-CHRISTLIKE comments and still go on strong.  Did you get that word in bid print.  UNCHRISTLIKE.  Got it.  How can you sit there and cuss and carry on an still call yourself Christians.  Personally if I got on a public website and posted stuff like that I would be embarrassed.  I truly think I would have to drop to my knees right there, because the things I have seen you people write are literally DISGUSTING.  Also I would like to ask you, when did God give you the power to decide that someone is going to hell. Salvation is something that is between that person and God. 

You have no right to say such things.  YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.  If you are such a person that persecutes these people because they are serving God, then I think you need to look at your own spirituality and stop trying to tell others who are trying to do good how stupid and wrong they are. You are and always will be in my prayers.  I pray that you stop talking down those trying to do good and start talking up the word of GOD. 

Again, thank you so, so much for your comments and articles.  I agree with the things I have read so far, like Harry Potter, D&D, and Wicca.  You are truly amazing, and I feel that God is smiling upon you everytime you speak out for him.  I'm sorry if any of this seems a little insulting, but after reading some of these things I couldn't take it anymore.  Please keep on letting your light shine, and never hide it for anyone.  God Bless You always!

           "Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your father which is in heaven."   -Matthew 5:16          

Thank you, Ashley, for your encouragement and support.                                   


From Perrin: I have a question and you would seem the ones to answer it:  What would God be without human beings to worship Him?

No matter what our circumstances, God would still be God, the eternal Creator and Ruler of the world. Nothing we do can change His character. He "is the same, yesterday, today and forever." 

Hypothetically, if there was another planet with intelligent life on it, would God have influence there?  Would he even exist there?

God deals with reality, not fantasy. He doesn't tell us what He would do in hypothetical worlds. Nor can say what God would do with a nonexistent situation. But the Bible allows us to see His character and know His heart and will. That's enough for me. I would be presumptuous if I tried to give answers that He hasn't shown us.
 


From R. F.: Hey there christians, I do a weekly talk radio show here in MI. I heard a lot of christian groups are burning harry potter books lately, so my show is organizing a bible burning this wed night live on the air. I hope you will join us as we send the real evil book to hell.
i will throw a bible on the fire just for you! but im sure you wont listen or call in. All christians are cowards. Good day. burn baby burn

Wonder what takes more courage, R.F. -- following the politically correct, anti-Christian crowd or taking a stand that brings the kind of ridicule that you apparently promote on your show. The Christians I know are brave enough to follow their convictions and kind enough to show God's love.

 

Don't forget, God's promise of protection and security in Himself reaches out to people,  not books. There is a strange and twisted logic in today's love for books and hatred for people. We might do well to love people and read books.

 


From Perrin: You really find Satan, evil, and paganism in everything, don't you? Pretty soon you will be to scared to walk out the door for fear of seeing the Devil's influence. I have told a few of my friends about you. We both agree, you should make The Top Five Hilariously Ignorant Web Sites. All I can say is that I shall pray for you.

You really don't understand, do you, Perrin? Christians, of all people, have nothing to fear. Our God is the sovereign King of the universe. He is also our Shepherd, our strength, our peace... everything we need to live secure in Him each day. Please read My High Tower: Seeing the world from His perspective


From Don M:  With so many articles of incursions of evil, I just know you will thrill to this report. Sunday night, I made a special trip to the Bible Church I had grown up in. Two of my old friends were showing the video " Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged" by Jeremiah Films, which also includes a video segment showing Berit's article on Harry.

I confess to being a tad skeptical on whether there was going to be any large number of people to come on a Sunday Night in January ...to see a video about Harry Potter so long after its release date.

Praise God, the room was filled with young and old -- teachers from my old school, an associate pastor, and several families with children who had been mesmerized by Harry.

After prayer for God to have His Way, we showed the video... you could have heard a pin drop. I was not sure of the eventual reaction.... but I was blessed beyond measure when the long time associate Pastor got up after the video, and told a very personal and compelling story of how he himself had as a youth been drawn into occult practices through his Indian culture. He spoke very solemnly and gravely about the reality of power in the occult..and how he had been originally mesmerized by the powers, and had at one time actually wanted to be a "medicine man" for the Indians. But God had different plans, He heard the Gospel, responded to Christ's love and trusted Jesus as his Savior.

He then went on to tell of the powers of the occult, and how even many months later , he felt the oppressive results from his childhood dabblings. Through constant prayer, God delivered him, and he told the people that occultism was no place to seek fun or entertainment. I was thrilled! He had never told this story to anyone in that church for over 25 years!


One father, who had brought his whole family, came up to me afterward and asked me, "What can I do? I did not know this was so evil. I have allowed my sons who are here with me to read all the books and I am deeply convicted."

I pointed the man to confession to Christ and to then repent and obey God by lovingly leading his sons to obey God and abhor evil. He was ready to do so. He thanked me, but it was all GOD!

In God's economy , what appears small to our eyes, is monumental in His. Thanks for being Faithful to God in this desperate hour in this Land. God Blessed this night, and Im sure the "ripple" effects will continue far beyond even this tremendous opening.

Don, this was so encouraging! Thank you, and thank You, Lord!


From Kife: I commend you on trying to bring "the message" to the masses. I can see you've spent a considerable amount of time creating this excellent website. But when it comes to condemning Harry Potter, I have some issues.

 

I am a 25 year old, college educated American with a BS in Electrical Engineering. I am a dedicated Christian, attending services weekly and living in a wholesome way. There is all kinds of evil in this world, from gang violence to racism. I have read 3 of the 4 Harry Potter books (I've not read the 4th yet....still sold out here), and they are all wonderful books! They no more encourage witchcraft and such than Halloween does. I suggest that you reread the books, not from the stand-point of an educated adult, but from the stand-point of a child. There is nothing wrong with imagination. We've all dreamt of times that we'd rather be somewhere other than here. So continue on with your other missions, but let Harry rest. Its just fiction, after all. God bless

I appreciate your thoughtful letter, Kife, but I can't agree with you. I explained why in my various articles on this topic. Please, at least read the two latest ones: Harry Potter and the Power of Suggestion and Twelve reasons not to see Harry Potter movies


From Richard: Your commentary reminds me that it's possible for a religion, good or otherwise, to be hijacked by people with an opinion - or people who just want to use a faith for their own gain. I know of at least one idol who could speak and think - for that idol was a person who was worshipped as a god. Did he get his way? No! How come? Because proponents of his religion kept using it for their own ends!


The idol in question was Hirohito, Emperor of Japan and reputed descendant of Japan's sun goddess, the time was the 1930s and 1940s, and the proponents were Japanese military warlords who took over the country through foul play. They arrested scores of political (and religious) opponents, and set forth on a "noble" path of expansion of the Japanese Empire. They loudly thumped the name of the Emperor, and millions of Japanese schoolkids of the day learned the art of reverence for him. This same emperor, however, was a lover of the West and of Western ways. He wrote about various life-forms and biological processes, and wore a Mickey Mouse watch in his later years.


How could this be? Well, traditionally, Japanese emperors were supposed to be "above" politics, as members of the Divine realm. The real power fell to the shoguns, or feudal warlords (Tokugawa Ieyasu being a famous example from the days of yore). Hence, emperors were imprisioned in grand palaces and paraded around in front of gold foil, and carried on fluff, but were expected to approve whatever the warlords said they were going to do. Likewise, many Christians (so-called Christians?) have presumed God and Jesus to be above politics, simply because of their Divinities, and thus hijacked their own religion for their own ends.


Just as the Japanese hijacking of Shinto ended badly, so did many of the bigots' hijackings of Christianity. Remember the Ku Klux Klan and Hitler? What would you say to those who consider Divinity to be above politics? One shouldn't go around shuttering up God, and I am not entirely sure the writers transcribing the Bible didn't shutter up God themselves and twisted His words to mean something different from the original. I am also not entirely sure that Divine opinions haven't changed in the past 2000 years!

The human imagination has envisioned a great diversity of gods or "Divinities" that fit their desires and serve their purposes. Most blend religion with politics -- or at least serve the political ends of their finite authors. The "gods" that led Hitler and inspired the KKK were cruel distortions of the God I serve. They illustrate how Satan can masquerade as an angel of light. 2 Cor 11:15

 

The God we love, Who authored His Word -- whose fulfilled prophecies have been validated by the world's historical and archeological records -- tells us to apply His truths and teachings to everything in life. No aspect of life is immune to corruption or severed from His sphere of influence. He reigns over all things and uses all things -- evil as well as good -- for His ultimate purposes. Rom 11:33-36 and Proverb 16:4

 

Since He is a personal God who cares about people, we can come to Him in our need and trust in His justice. He will shelter His people and guide us through the political, economic, cultural and spiritual transformations of our times. See What it means to be a Christian

 


From Andy: You guys cant be for real about you opinion on Harry Potter. I have never seen my kids want to read so much in their lives. Imagination is wonderful thing ... and harmless. Witches & witch craft? ... sounds no different to fairy tales we have been telling our children for centuries.

Then again, I guess it is a little hard to expect a rational opinion from a religious group. Now, religion .... that sounds dangerous to me. Fortunately I protect my kids from going to church.

You may be sorry one day, Andy. It's not wise to ignore the real enemy to your security -- or to turn your back to the only One who can give you lasting peace. Reality has a way of breaking down our illusions and crushing the fantasy worlds we imagine.  Proverbs 12:15


From Misty: To those of you who call Christians "closed-minded," why are you considered "open-minded?"  Because of our beliefs we are considered intolerant, but are you any more tolerant of other's beliefs?  You certainly aren't tolerating mine!  Before you point the finger at me take a long hard look at yourself and your intolerant attitude. 

As for Harry Potter, my job as a parent of a small child is to guide and teach him and I don't think I can do that well by "letting him make up his own mind" on such important and dangerous issues.  If your children wish to cross a busy highway in rush hour are you going to "let them make up their own mind?"  Satan uses seemingly innocent avenues to introduce thoughts and actions that are detrimental to our spiritual and physical well-being. It is our job to weed out the bad and promote the good.

Thank you, Misty, for sharing our concerns. I appreciate your warning.


From Matt: As a Christian, I was eager to read your Harry Potter articles. You appear to be stuck in the mire of mindless literalism, both Biblically and in reference to the Potter books. While I respect your right to your own theology and opinions about popular literature, I'm bothered by the fact that your articles are apparently influencing others in cyberspace.


Harry Potter is a fictional character, but more importantly, the "wizardry" or "magic" he performs in the books is fictional. Let me be very clear about this--children who imitate scenes from the books or movie are not practicing sorcery or witchcraft. Rather, they are *playing*.


Children are not going to become occultists on the basis of reading Harry Potter books, just as they will not grow up to be hobbits because they loved them in Tolkien's books, just as they will not defect to the Klingon Empire because it looks so cool on Gene Roddenberry's tv shows. Jesus died to take away our sins--not our imaginations.

Matt, Jesus gave us new life so that we would follow His, not our own ways. He gave us the Bible and His Spirit as our guides. We don't have the choice of turning ourselves into hobbits, but we can choose to yield to a timeless temptation: to trust and use occult powers that counterfeit all the wonderful things God has promised those who follow Him.  When we do, we become spiritually blind to God's standards, we quench His Spirit in us, and we enter into bondage both to our nature and to satan's lies.  See Ephesians 4:27 (deals with anger, but the principle applies to other persistent sins) and 2 Corinthians 10:3-5. 


Anonymous: Well, first of all Nice job trying to bann H.P books, I have many things to say to you people,  I AM A CHRISTIAN, THE WAY YOU PEOPLE, YES YOU, THE ONES WHO CALL YOURSELVES CHRISTIANS, AND THE ITS ALL IN THE NAME OF GOD, YOU MAKE THINGS WORSE, FIRST OF ALL BECAUSE THESE ARE CHILDREN, AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE AN IMAGINATION.  THEY CAN'T ONLY CONCETRATED ON WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO, AND KIDS WHO HAVE NEVER READ, ARE NOW STARTING TO READ BECAUSE OF ROWLINGS BOOKS,  AND YOU ARE TRYING TO STOP THEM!!!

 

IT'S RIDICULUS THE WAY YOU PEOPLE THINK, YOU ARE THE ONES, SEEING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT THERE, MANY KIDS EVEN BEFORE HARRY POTTER BOOKS KNEW BOUT WITCHRAFT AND STUFF, MORE THAN YOU THINK I AM SURE!!!  YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO DESTROY PEOPLE'S HAPPINESS, TRYING TO SAY " YEAH WE ARE TRYING TO HELP" BUT HELP IN WHAT? HUH???

 

YOU PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE WORLD THE WAY IT IS NOW, PEOPLE SAYING THEY DOING IT IN THE NAME OF RELIGION.  BUT ALL THEY ARE DOING IS MAKING EVERYTHIING BAD FOR EVERYONE, SO DON'T BE SUCHH HIPOCRATS!! POTTER BOOKS ARE WONDERFUL TO THE IMAGINATION, AND DEVELOPMENT OF YOUR MIND, BUT HEY I GUESS YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A MIND TO DEVELOP SO!!!!

Did you read any of our articles? If so, you must have misunderstood our message. Please pray that God quiet your mind and enable you to "listen" to what we really said. Then read Harry Potter and the Power of Suggestion. I know it's a bit complex, but if you are going to criticize us, you should first hear our message so that you know what you oppose and can give some logical responses. Okay?


From Idit knezicIn your article about Christian leaders praising Harry Potter instead of warning against it you have failed to maintain that CBN and undoubtedly Pat Robertson have strongly cautioned against the occult influences and practices that are portrayed in the Harry Potter books. I myself have seen them expose Pokemon for the occult things it is based on and I believe on the same show they talked also about Harry Potter.


Check the article: "Harry Potter: The Hero for the Modern Witchcraft" on their special Harry Potter page at www.cbn.com
It is a very strong warning against the occult messages that are in Harry Potter and point out what the Bible says about witchcraft. It blesses me that they have taken that stand.

Thank you, Idit, for the correction. I actually based the article, Harry Potter Lures Kids to Witchcraft - with praise from Christian leaders, on Christianity Today's list of Harry Potter's friends among Christian leaders.  I missed those who were not listed in that particular report. All the more I welcome your reminder -- and this opportunity to show my appreciation for those who dared take a stand and expose the pagan influences in a popular form of entertainment.
 


From Rebecca: I read your post about Harry Potter and how is very bad for children to see because of many reasons. I believe in God and Jesus with all my heart BUT I totally disagree with you on Harry Potter. People say 'Parents shouldn't let their children see the movie'. Or 'What can possibly get a child's interest in movies that promote witchcraft'. Well, for one thing I like the books and the movie because I think it would be neat to fly on broomsticks and cast spells like they do in the movie. Children like to see movies that are out of the normal and have children around the same age. So by you saying that Harry Potter lures children into Witchcraft, I guess that I have been "lured in" as you say because I find it an amazing movie and the books are great.

Thank you, Rebecca, for you explanation. I appreciate your honesty. I don't agree with your values, but -- in America -- you and I have the right to choose our personal beliefs. I thank God for that.


From A. Georgiades: After reading over your comments section on Harry Potter, it came to my attention that your only means of defense is quotes from your Bible. There is no tangible evidence even today in the 21st century that your Bible was written by your God. And if it was, it is more than evident (I have read the Bible back and forth) that your God is prejudice and bigoted.

May I suggest you read books such as "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" and "More Than a Carpenter" by Josh McDowel. They might change your mind.

 

I started a section where I had planned to post a lot of archeological and historical documentation, but I just haven't had the time. Here is the beginning: Q&A: Science - Dinosaurs

I come from a long line of practicing European Witches...My oldest son is a law abiding, moral Police Officer, husband and father. Our family belief system did not corrupt my child...he knew the difference between fantasy and reality.

The term witchcraft comes from the old Scottish language and translates in "Wisdom". Witches do not believe in Satan, that is an entity created totally by Christianity. We adhere strictly to a creed..."Harm None".  Witchcraft is a study in Ontological Design....Every living creature on this planet and in this universe has a personal and unique relationship with
creation. It is pure arrogance and conceit (which is also against the commandments of your God) to assume that you know and can define to an exactness what God is or isn't. Nor does a God need man as an orator.

I would suggest that you talk to people in the pagan religion...study our beliefs and concepts before you pass judgment. In the words of your own Bible..."Judge not least ye be judged."

In its context, that Scripture warns us against a judgmental or critical spirit:

"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4"Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." Matthew 7:1-5

But Jesus also told us, "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." John 7:24  God calls His people to evaluate all things by His standard as given in the Bible, so that we not be deceived by human philosophies, other religions or the cravings of our human nature.

 

As for your suggestion, please read Twist of Faith, chapters 1, 2 and 3. They would show you many of the conversations I have had with contemporary witches and neopagans.  Some like to call themselves Pagans or Wiccans, but all have embraced their own blend of various earth-centered religions. All were friendly and we had interesting conversations. And none identified with the timeless witchcraft mentioned in the Old Testament and documented in the historical records of many lands and cultures.  See Wicca, Witchcraft and Contemporary Paganism

 


From Anne Bailer:  Thank you for posting my letter. I did read your article, however, I have also done reserach there. You know what? They are frauds, a semi-skilled magician can pull off the same stunts without using witchcraft. So if they are doing it by magic, they are doing it the hard way. Bring me someone
that can cast a curse and I'll be happy to test them. Everyone I have tested has FAILED. Doesn't that say anything about it? Granted if I throw 1,000 reindeer of a building and the all crash, that doesn't prove they CAN'T fly, but in order for you to prove to me they CAN fly, you need to show me one that can. Until then I will continue to believe that reindeer can not fly and magic is a mixture between self-trickery and outright fraud. Thanks for you time.

Anne, your subjective tests don't carry much weight when contrasted with years of sophisticated research in this area. The studies and documentation by anthropologists, archeologist and historians around the world have shown that the spiritual forces involved in witchcraft and sorcery do effectively cause death, illness and other demonstrable results.


From Tim Smith: As I read these comments by parents, I am not surprised that they do not know any better than the children. I as a concerned parent I wanted to find out more. I went to the official Harry Potter website. I went to the chat room to see what the kids were saying about Harry. Much to my amazement there were kids of all ages cursing, swearing, being vile to each other and myself. As I tried to converse with them, they told me that Harry Potter was about WITCHCRAFT! ...............These kids new what it was about.

The site also suggest these books to read: THE STANDARD BOOK OF
SPELLS, ONE THOUSAND MEDICAL HERBS AND FUNGI, A HISTORY OF MAGIC,
and MAGICAL THEORY.

At the unofficial Harry Potter website you can access TAROT CARD readings as well as more darker related items. The site has a vast dialogue area, and as I further found out even more.... EVIL!!! Comments by kids and adults such as 'How do I join Death Eaters' and this the most appalling: 'Better to rule in Hell then to serve in heaven.'

The undercurrent of this invasion of satan could have already ruined a generation. May we pray for GOD's forgiveness, and reclaim America for CHRIST.

 


From Anne Bailer:  Well so much for your assertion that Harry Potter attracts children more than The Nutcracker, at least in my family. We are planning various Holiday excersions and I gave the choice to my 2 sons and 12 nieces and nephews, (all aged between 6-17) to either see the Nutcracker (all had seen it) or Harry Potter (11 had see it). 10 of the 14 total chose to see the Nutcracker while none of the objections to seeing Harry Potter were on religous grounds. THEY JUST LIKE THE NUTCRACKER BETTER. Granted this is statistics of a small group but it gives you something to think about yes?

Yes, it does, Anne. And you are right. "This small group" doesn't cancel out the worldwide statistics on the Harry Potter craze. Perhaps your group of children just needed a break -- or wanted to celebrate Christmas.


From Linda Kazakis: I am greatly saddened at the response of "Christians" who support the Harry Potter books and movie. There is such a desperation for entertainment and 'easy-believe-ism' in the world today - there is no lack of evil to tickle itching ears and satiate the flesh of man.

2 Corinthians 11:14 rings true..."And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

Is it to be believed that the enemy of our souls will reveal himself in all his diabolical ugliness? Instead he seduces with supposed harmless 'entertainment' - as it is referred to so often in the comments sent to you. Yet the Scriptures are replete with God's warnings to stay away from anything having to do with the occult. If it were harmless and only fantasy I have to ask these 'Christians' why their Father in heaven is so adamant about them staying away from it? Do you think the Creator of the universe might know the destruction and harm this dabbling can cause?

Truly we are living in interesting times.

We agree, Linda. How blessed we are to know Him!


From Fabienne Durdin: Harry Potter seems to be headline news everywhere. The media are promoting Harry as if people's lives depended on Ms Rowling's books. Some of these promotions are even blasphemous, comparing Harry to Jesus Christ! The hardest thing to cope with is the Christians who are raving about the books and the movie and buying all the Potter-mania toys, etc for their children for Christmas. I have found that most of these folk have not got around to reading the fourth book yet. I hope their eyes will finally be opened when they do. One can't help wondering if Harry would be required reading in early childhood education.

(See first part of this letter on this page: Global Education)


Anonymous:  I see that I am writing to a totally conservative group of fanatics that are blinded by their so-called "truths".  I am sure, however, that the group I am writing to will twist my words right now.   It seems that anyone that does not agree with yours preaching on Harry Potter is a non-Christian, even though they say they are.   Just because one does not believe in what you do does not mean they are a Christian.   You require them to provide evidence that they are Christian, and even then you do not believe them.  You provide no evidence that you are Christian either, and I believe that you are not Christian, but a fake, close-minded, fanatic, conservative, idiotic, double-sided, freak.  Please tell me just what makes a religion "evil".  Can you, even? 

Different groups define the word, Christian, in different ways. We find our meaning for that special word in the New Testament of the Bible. It also shows us God's standard for what is good and evil and for what it means to be a Christian.

 

You have the right to believe what you choose, but so do we.  We are free to look to God's Word for our definitions and to share what the Bible tells us with others -- even though many would like to censor and silence us. Remember, this website was intended for those who love the Bible as we do. We don't force anyone to come and hear our message.

Perhaps you do not know, but other people might not agree with you!!!!  Whoa, what a revelation!!!!  Did you know that?  I'll give you some time to digest that information, since it was probably the first time you heard it.  
 


From Julie Farrance: "12 reasons why you need to get a life." Her response to Twelve reasons not to see Harry Potter movies.

 

1.Common sense shows us that witchcraft, sorcery, spells, divination and magic are purely fantasy and therefore harmless.

I appreciate your efforts, Julie, but that's not common sense. That's ignorance. Please go to a world history book or an encyclopedia and look up witchcraft, divination, palmistry, wizards, etc. These practices have controlled human behavior around the world for thousands of years. 

2.The movie's foundation in fantasy, not reality, has no effect on an individual's beliefs and values because these are largely instilled in children at home by their parents.

Please read my latest article (almost finished): Movie Magic and Unconscious Learning

3. Each occult image and enticing suggestion is part of an adventure which is a form of entertainment. Perhaps you'd prefer the kids to go out and graffiti, rape and murder?

Why should I prefer that? There are so many wonderful books to read, hikes to take, places to see and things to do that help and encourage people.

4. A good upbringing tells us to "abhor what is evil" and "cling to what is good." God has nothing to do with it.

God has everything to do with helping us see what is "good" and "evil". When we don't know His World, we tend to turn those two around. See Isaiah 5:20

5. Immersed in the values taught at Hogwarts School for Witchcraft and Wizardry, children become spiritually enlightened.

That would be true, Julie, if you are speaking from a pagan perspective and consider witchcraft and neopaganism to be spiritual enlightenment.

6. There is no inner change and we know this because as children we read the likes of such books as "The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe" and didn't become some creatures of evil.

Again I refer you to Movie Magic and Unconscious Learning. I hope and pray that it will help you understand my answer to your point.

7.The main product marketed through this movie is special effects and damn good entertainment - maybe you should actually watch the movie.

Sarcasm doesn't strengthen your argument, Julie. Nor does your personal opinion. For a logical discussion, you need facts and research to back up your subjective conclusions.  

8. The implied source of power behind Harry's magical feats is irrelevant to a child.

Yes, the source may seem irrelevant, but that makes it easier for the movie makers to instill an new spiritual awareness without the child's conscious resistance.

9. Children have a right to find their own calling and belief system. Religion has caused more bloodshed in this world than anything else. What do you think the WTC disaster was all about? What about the Palestinians & Israelis? The problem in Northern Ireland? Which denomination of Christianity is actually the correct one?

That question deserves a more complete answer than I can give here. Please see Biblical versus Cultural Christianity

10. Good parenting, coupled with logic tells us to train up a child in the way he will benefit most from life.

God says, "Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it." Proverbs 22:6. That training involves an deep lasting understanding of God's Word, character, values, promises and warnings. It does not suggest we send our children to movies that immerses them in a contrary belief system that will confuse their understanding of God.

11. Some argue that Harry Potter and his friends demonstrate friendship, integrity and honesty, and have actually derived from the film, the intended positive aspects. Those whose minds are closeted and blinded by fanatic religion, foolishly believe it's about how to lie and steal and get away with it.

12. "God has a better way." Yes, why don't you make a film about that then and see how much it grosses at the box office. Its genre will be labelled adventure fantasy, not history.

Hope this has been of some value to you. If censorship is the name of your game, I pity those whose minds you have closed to learning. Get some psychological help.

     Thank you, Julie, but you seem to have missed all my points.

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From Anne Bailer: I read through the comments relating to Harry Potter, and I feel that you are mistaken on a number of points. First, there is no evidence that magic is real, what you take for evidence has many other explanations.

Those who live in countries where shamanism and witchcraft still rules tribal people, spells and curses are all too real. In the last centuries, many who were trapped in occult oppression were set free through the faith of caring Christian missionaries. Please read African Witchcraft.

Yes some children take it seriously, but a little bit of skeptism gets rid of that. My children routinely find mistakes and things that could not possibly happen even given the different laws of Harry's world, they do not believe in witchcraft because they know the scientific method of questioning and testing. Your arguments against fantasy can be applied to so many other things. What about Chaikovsky's (Tchaikovsky in English) Swan Lake? The main character is an Animorph that switches between human and swan form. How about his Nutcracker? Again this is filled with magic. How about Richard Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen (The Ring Cycle), on which JRR Tolkien based much of Lord of the Rings?

I hope to write an article on Lord of the Rings next week. It should answer your last question. For now, please read Twelve reasons not to see Harry Potter movies and Harry Potter and the Power of Suggestion

What about Holst's "The Planets", with names like "Mars Bringer of War", and "Mercury the Winged Messanger"? These are clearly reference to the ancient Roman Gods. Even Beethoven's 5th with "Fate knocking at the door" has supernatural conotations. Does all of this music lead people away from God? I don't think so, these are all props, the same way that the supernatural is used as props in Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings.

Harry Potter is far more seductive, because it tells an enticing story with characters that children love, identify with and follow in their imagination.  Please see Movie Magic and Unconscious Learning

As for your statement that fantasy can lead children away from God, I have found that children believe what makes sense, not what they would like to believe.

My children stopped believing in Santa Claus even though continued belief would make the world more intersting after they learned divsion and were able to figure out how much time he would have per house. They stopped believing in UFOs even though they still long to meat extraterrestials when they sat down and examined the evidence. All this before the age of 10. If they can do this, every other child should be able to tell the difference between fact and fantasy.

Anne, the fact that you can't see the conflict that Christian children face when they identify with pagan characters and occult practices suggests that you, too, have been persuaded by popular entertainment that Biblical principles don't apply to today's culture and entertainment. Please do read Movie Magic and Unconscious Learning. It explains the danger I see.

 


From Theresa: I came across your site during a desperate effort to give my son (11) a reasonable explanation re: whether he could go on the school trip to see the “Harry Potter” movie.  He is a movie nut & the trailer made the movie look as fun & as innocent as “Spy Kids”.  But that was not the real challenge – the real challenge was that the school was going on a field trip. 

I did as I did before & asked him if I could think about it thoroughly. I would give him an answer by weeks end right before the trip. 

Off to the internet I went to find some council.  I was amazed at just how many sites there are available. This added to my quandary to find a conclusion.  I was very surprised to find so many Christian sites in favor of the series.  Even though I wanted to find a reason to let my son go, I found myself wondering how come the information seemed so one sided.  This raised questions for me & I continued to search.  Yours was the first site to reveal any real information. 

Much of the witch & wizardry in the book is actually real.  Why do they continue to say that this is total fantasy.  What are they afraid of?  I found my self seeing quite clearly a wolf in sheep’s clothing.  I did find one other site that was in complete agreement with yours.  Not many are willing to be bold & stand up to this kind of agenda.  My son accepted my response of “no” once again. (He is willing to trust that I will look at both sides of an issue & we can discuss it – I also have a 9 yr.old who is in a private school & a 16yr.old who have had absolutely no interest at all & peer pressure is not an issue).  So with all this being said I just wanted to support you & your willingness to be bold. 

I also feel people like Chuck Colson who have given the impression of endorsing this are just being blinded because they are just men who people have substituted for their own lack of reading the Bible.  God will ultimately prevail this we know.  On a final note – moments after I dropped my son off at school I received a call from his teacher.  The trip was called off.  She asked me if I had been praying (I had told her I was struggling to know what that right thing to do was).  Yes I had been praying all night & He knew my heart & heard me.  For He who is in me is greater than he who is in the world.  May God bless you ...

Thank you, Theresa. 


From Theresa (a Christian mom): Thank you for Twelve reasons not to see Harry Potter movies. My 10 year old daughter read this and other people's comments regarding this issue. She was pumped and ready to take it in to her teacher to help explain why she can not participate in Harry Potter activities. She was also disappointed with the response from those who do not Know Jesus and even with those who claim to know him yet try to justify there pleasures.  Jesus said that he will come to those who OBEY him. To know Jesus is to know His Word, and obeying Him shows that we truly do love Him.

The only thing my daughter was worried about has to do with the scoffers and the feel good faith followers. When they write with mean things to say should we even give them the satisfaction of a debate? Some times the most powerful witness is the one who will not argue.

You raise a good point, Theresa. But there are at least three reasons why I post the angry comments and try to respond to the challenges. First, I want to show our visitors that, no matter how much they hate me, I still care about them and hope to show them the love God has put in my heart.

Second, many have genuine questions that allow me to share the truths could bring His peace and life to those who have lost their way.

Third, Christian children face the same challenges from their peers and teachers. Perhaps my answers can help them to stand firm in their faith and to give Biblical answers to the hard questions. Please pray with me that God use my responses to encourage and equip His children.

 


From Asrai Selkie:  I read your article "12 reasons not to see Harry  Potter", I think it was called, and a few other Harry Potter things too. I have a few questions that I hope you can help me with:
 
First, I noticed as one method of prevention, you mentioned thwarting children from other gods. But
in the bible, god says "Thou shall have no other god  ABOVE me", meaning that children can worship any and all gods, including pagan ones, as long as they worship him first.

Which Bible version are you reading, Asrai? None of mine use those words. Some are translated, "You shall have no other gods before Me." Exodus 20:3 and Deuteronomy 5:7  According to the Interlinear Hebrew, Greek English Bible edited by Jay Green, the original words were "‘You shall have no other gods besides Me." Since the old Hebrew adjectives don't match our English language word by word, a translated adjective cannot always be precise. At such times of uncertainty, the most accurate word must be determined and tested by the context. And the context here would be the whole Bible. 

 

If you were right, then God would be approving of polytheism -- many gods. But He forbids the worship of other gods and explains that the popular deities of pagan nations are actually demonic or "deceiving spirits" who have no love for anyone. Here are some Scriptures that show this context -- specifically, God's attitude toward polytheism:

"You shall have no other gods before Me." Exodus 20:3 and Deuteronomy 5:7

"And in all that I have said to you, be circumspect and make no mention of the name of other gods, nor let it be heard from your mouth." Exodus 23:13

"...for you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God." Exodus 34:14

"To you it was shown, that you might know that the Lord Himself is God; there is none other besides Him." Deuteronomy 4:35

"Therefore know this day, and consider it in your heart, that the Lord Himself is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other." Deut 4:39

Secondly, you mentioned something about witchcraft being deadly. I am confused. How can it be deadly? God does not punish us by death...does he? 

I can give you three answers to your question: (1) Witchcraft and shamanism-- as practices in various African nation, in Haiti (spells and voodoo), in South and Central America, in parts of Asia and in many other nations -- is deadly. Those who have watched friends and family members die painful death because of occult curses and spells know that well. I plan to write more about this, but for now I suggest you can read African Witchcraft.

 

(2) The Bible tells of many whose lives were taken because they disobeyed Him -- especially among leaders and kings who turned to other gods and influenced the masses by their actions. But those deaths occurred as lessons for His people who needed to understand the meaning of holiness and the danger of occultism, so that they would choose to follow the only God who truly cared for His people. This passage illustrates both His justice and His mercy:

"He (Manasseh, king of Judah) practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft and sorcery, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke Him to anger. He even set a carved image, the idol which he had made, in the house of God....

     "So Manasseh seduced Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to do more evil than the nations whom the Lord had destroyed before the children of Israel. And the Lord spoke to Manasseh and his people, but they would not listen. Therefore the Lord brought upon them the captains of the army of the king of Assyria, who took Manasseh with hooks, bound him with bronze fetters, and carried him off to Babylon. Now when he was in affliction, he implored the Lord his God, and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers, and prayed to Him; and He received his entreaty, heard his supplication, and brought him back to Jerusalem into his kingdom. Then Manasseh knew that the Lord was God." 2 Chronicles 33:6-13

(30 I was actually referring to the spiritual death mentioned often in the New Testament. We believe there is one God who created all people and the world. He has written the moral, physical and natural laws of the universe, and He ordains the judgments faced by those who choose to live outside of His wise guidance.

"Then it shall be, if you by any means forget the Lord your God, and follow other gods, and serve them and worship them, I testify against you this day that you shall surely perish. As the nations which the Lord destroys before you, so you shall perish, because you would not be obedient to the voice of the Lord your God." Deut 8:19-20

I know these answers are both complex and politically incorrect -- especially for those who have no foundation in Biblical truth. But He makes it very clear that we are dead in our sins until He fills those who trust Him with His life. When those who profess faith in Him disobey, they quench His Spirit in them. This passage may help explain the difference between spiritual life and death:

"And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

        "But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast." Ephesians 2:1-9

Third, Wiccans, Pagans and Witches are looked upon as evil, but I don't understand why. Wiccans believe
that all of the world's god's are one god. Isn't that true?, Pagans worship life and nature, some could even
say the life and nature given to them by god. And I must say that I can't figure out why witches are evil
at all. Please explain it to me, there must just be something I've missed.

Asrai, I believe I have already answered that question from a Biblical perspective. Please read the first part of the passage from 2 Chronicles  33:6-13 again.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, maybe you can answer my questions. Thanks again.

    Thank you, Asrai, for being so polite and friendly.

 


From Donna Nespoli: "When you go to church on Sunday what do you see? Candles, holy water, incense... These representing the elements!!! How about the ceremonial magic of turning wine into blood and bread into flesh??? Magic? I should say so. And how about all your holidays??

Actually, I don't see any of those in our church. I realize that from a Wiccan and many other pagan perspectives, those ceremonial elements represent earth, water, air and fire -- and are part of your magic rituals. But that's not true in the Church. [See "Elements" in Symbols and their meaning]

Get over it, we are all from the same place. Those of us that do good in the name of Jesus or the Goddess or Buddha ARE ALL DOING GOOD. That's the important part. Those that do evil are Christain, Buddhists, Pagans...get my point?

Harry Potter teaches also kids that magic is real and that good CAN triumph over evil. Harry is a boy that overcomes major obstacles and through his strength and beliefs he conquers EVIL. Just like Luke Skywalker.

I am glad you said that "magic is real," Donna. Many deny that fact and rationalize away Harry Potter's influence by calling Hogwarts' magical practices "nothing but fantasy."  

As I tried to explain in  "Four Faces of Islam," any religion can shift from its idealistic practices to overt evil. That's why I encouraged Christians to ask God to search our hearts and show us if -- in any part of our lives -- we are acting by our human nature rather than God's nature in us. [See Biblical versus Cultural Christianity and Statistics for the Changing Church]

I also thank you for supporting my comparison between the Harry Potter world and the Star Wars myths. In both, anyone who learns to manipulate spiritual forces can choose whether they would operate in the "good" side or the "evil" side. But to Christians, both represent a single spiritual domain that opposes our God. That's why He warned us to have nothing to do with any of those practices. Deut 8:10-20.


From Jeff Allen: I came across your website because it was being laughed at in an internet forum.  Let me tell you something about these books and movie.  To start, I am a Christian.  I have a positive relationship with God.  For your website to bad mouth Harry Potter is one of the most ignorant things I have ever read in my life.  Have you even read the books?  Do you know the difference between good and evil. 

 

The books are a struggle between good and evil (ie God vs Satan).  Wake up, Harry and his friends equal good, Voldemort and his followers equal evil.  Who wins at the end of each book?  Good does, of course.  These are works of fiction.  They celebrate Christmas in the books and movie.  Why, I believe that is celebrating the birth of Christ.  Imagine that! 

I have read and studied all the books, Jeff. They illustrate two sides of what God calls evil: (1) the obviously evil occultism represented by Voldemort and others who practice the dark arts and (2) the light, deceptive side -- "the beautiful side of evil" represented by Harry and the other "good" characters.

 

Like pagan or earth-centered religions around the world, both sides ("good" and bad paganism) demonstrate the power of the occult. Contemporary witches in Africa and other nations, whose oppressive and frightening practices have changed little through the years, still cast "good" and evil spells (latter may be called curses) and seek help from the more "friendly" demonic forces to ward off the scarier ones. See African Witchcraft.

 

Did you seriously consider my arguments in our four articles on Harry Potter? Please do. The power behind Harry's spells is neither benevolent nor compatible with Christianity. It may "feel good" to Potter fans, but from a Biblical perspective, it's the same evil authority as that which empowers Voldemort. You may want to review the Scriptures I used in Twelve reasons not to see Harry Potter movies.

 

As for Christmas in the books, I only saw the references to the some of the cultural symbols of the holidays -- those that were borrowed from pagan traditions and have nothing to do with the birth of God's Son.

The misinformed Fundamentalist Christians are just as bad as the Taliban in Afghanistan.  People can have different beliefs on spirituality than you.  Can you understand that?  Please educate yourselves about the real battles going on right now and leave the wholesome story of Harry Potter out of it.  Quit spewing "your so called Christian" messege in the form of hate propaganda.  You are no better than the Taliban or Nazis. 

I must admit that I wondered what you meant when you said "I am a Christian." Since you seem to question where I stand, I offer you this explanation: What it means to be a Christian. You will see that what I write is consistent with what I believe. Could you tell me more about your faith? I would like to understand just who Jesus Christ is to you.


From Leslie: "You bible is just as whacked if not more scary than anything harry potter goes through. What with genocide, and fantasy and adultery and murder and stuff that just won't make sense without the 'faith' factor.

Genocide (or wars), fantasy and adultery make sense when you consider human nature and history. Whether openly or covertly, those activities have always (in varying degrees) been part of  human life and of the cultural consequences of man's self-centered choices. They are mentioned  in the Bible -- from God's perspective -- so that we can learn from the examples and see reality through the filter of His values and ways. They show us how much we need His gift of forgiveness, the strength of His life in us, and the peace that only comes from faith in His promises. See What it means to be a Christian

But all that aside: you must be feeling pretty insecure and frightened? You seem to spend a lot of time on stuff that could harm your immortal soul.

Actually, we feel pretty secure and confident. We know who is in control, and we know the One with whom we will spend eternity. We can count on His resources no matter what challenge we face.

 

But because we read the Bible, we also see the consequences of today's moral, cultural and spiritual slide. So we speak up. These Scriptures explain our mission: Ezekiel 3:17-21, 27 and

America's Spiritual Slide

 


From Judith Clark: Thank-you so much for putting out the article, "Twelve Reasons Not to See Harry Potter Movies" as well as the recent lessons, leading up to Isaiah....

I think that it is so important to warn people about this movie (even though I have not seen it, I somehow feel that I should not see it either, but your article helps to strengthen this conviction and also provides help in talking with others about this.


From Sandy (addressed to other visitors): I have read several responses to those of you who do not agree that the Harry Potter books are harmful. Although I understand those of you who are not a Christian would not agree, I was however shocked at the hateful way you responded. These people have as much right to their opinion as you do, yet they answered your terrible letters in a much nicer way than you did.

Some of you even went so far as to wish bad things on them. Yet you claim these Harry Potter books are "harmless". Well I suggest you find the e-mail you sent and take a closer look. If you're love and devotion to this seemingly harmless series has caused you to treat another human being in this despicable manner, I would hardly call it "harmless".

As for the teens that also wrote hate mail, it does not excuse you either, you say you are old enough to know reality from fantasy, and right from wrong then so be it, you and you alone are responsible for your tactless behavior. As for my own opinion on the subject, I happen to agree. And after reading all these terrible post only strengthens it. If your idea of being "open minded" is to attack someone in this nature simply for giving their views which someone has ASKED them for, then I want no part of that. Maybe you all are the ones with the closed minds to not even consider there may be a grain of truth in what they are saying about your precious Harry Potter books.


From Monika Nelsen: Let me preface my comments, by stating that I am Catholic.  I believe in & love Jesus Christ.  He is the Savior.  On a recreational level, I enjoy the Harry Potter series. 

 
The articles posted on the site, against Harry Potter, are unfounded.  These are books intended for leisure - they are not intended to be a/the Bible.  However, it seems to me, that this is how 'you' are interpreting it - promoting witchcraft, evil, etc.  The site has taken a very literal position on the stories, however, the message of these books is basically 'Good versus Evil'.  Good wins. 

No, it doesn't. And an illusion of "good" (as in "white" magic for supposedly noble purposes) is far more believable -- and therefore more dangerous -- to a child's Christian faith than the obviously evil magic of "the dark arts." That's why the Bible warns us that Satan masquerades as "an angel of light."

 Yes, the author uses wizardry as a setting for her stories.  The magic she presents is there to provide an interesting background - yes, fantasy, imagination.  Look beyond the literal and see the message she is providing.  I don't want to offend anyone or be sacrilegious, but her allegories do reflect Christian values.  

Christian "values" means appreciating what God Himself values -- and He tells us from Genesis to Revelations that He does not appreciate witchcraft or spell casting.

Harry, in the muggle world, is scorned, ridiculed, & punished.  Actually, he also encounters this throughout the time he spends in school (amongst his own).  Being the protagonist, representing Good, we see him struggle and rise above the evil - even symbolically, on his broomstick.  Yes, he lies at times in the stories, but he gets caught and suffers consequences.  This aspect reflects the human nature of learning.  In those times that Harry deceives, it's for a higher cause.  I hate to be extremist, but, should the Polish Christians that hid Jews in WW II be faulted for lying to the Nazis?

Harry and his friends were usually rewarded, not punished, for lying or breaking rules.

On a high level, in His lifetime Jesus was also rejected by the majority - including those within His circle.  Jesus performed miracles.  These miracles are God's 'magic'. 

God tells us to avoid magic, but to trust Him. The Bible repeatedly lists magicians along with sorcerers, astrologers and other occultists who use timeless spiritual formulas to manipulate demonic forces and accomplish their spells and magical feats. There is a huge difference and spiritual divide between God's miracles (which He performs - sometimes through His people) and the foolish human attempts to manipulate forces delegated for a season to satan's domain. See The Nature and Tactics of Satan

The Harry Potter books do not contradict God.  The editor sites Deut 18:9-12, "... you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. "There shall not be found among you anyone who... practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. "  Uhm, the Potter books do not do this.  Reading about a character that practices witchcraft is NOT the same as having "be found among you anyone who... practices witchcraft ...".  There's a big difference between hanging out with Wiccans and reading a storybook.  The association is especially not valid because the books are not 'witchcraft-how-to'.  Reminder - this is fiction for entertainment; not unlike a sailor who eats spinach for strength.  Is spinach good for you (truth) - Yes.  Do two or three generations of the Popeye cartoon audience believe spinach gives you enormous strength - No. 

The imagination allows a person to vicariously enter into an experience and feel as though he or she actually were in the scene. That's why the audience at the Harry Potter movie laughed at some spells and became anxious at other times. They identified with the characters and "felt their pain."  They also learned to love the occult practices and to want Harry and his friends to win the battles -- even by using occult means. This process breaks down resistance to what God calls evil, and it causes children to love what He hates. Rom 12:2-9

Okay, next biblical references, "...do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.  Romans 12:2.  "  Harry Potter is not of this world.  He is a fictional character in a story.  He represents Good.  Strip away the story environment - do his intentions or behaviors contradict the will of God? 

You just said he was a fictional character. Therefore your question is hypothetical and can't really be answered. But if a real boy involved himself in the domain of Satan, he would put himself outside of God's will no matter how noble his own thoughts and intentions.  You can't please God while drawing power from satan.

Look at what Harry Potter does in the books.  Ignore (for a moment) the 'magic' environment used to capture the reader's imagination & look at the motivations for his behaviors & actions.  Harry always strives to do the 'right thing' based on values that reflect Christianity.  Of course, his intentions do not always receive the desired outcome.   That's what makes the stories!  Really, can 'you' please get past the first layer to see that this character is not anti-God ?!

 
"Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good." Romans 12:9  Obviously, if 'you' have read the books, 'you' would know that the message of Romans 12:9 is clearly depicted in the Harry Potter series, i.e. Good versus Evil. 
 
With all the tragedies and injustices occurring in our world at this time, it's very shameful for your site to have such an effort against one movie associated with some children's books.  Not to say that there shouldn't be any discussion around the occult aspects of this publication - but your audience should already know to guide their children in their own beliefs & to review the media input. 
 
I guess that my response is 'too long' to publish.  That's a convenient excuse - I dare you to publish it (provided that your response doesn't give biblical references without explaining how it pertains to your rebuttals).  I also welcome any personal responses. 

 


From Todd Antill, Concerned Parent: In response to this article: http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/D&D&Harry.htm

 

“Both immerse their fans in a plausible, well-developed fantasy world, replete with an evolving history, a carefully mapped geography, and wizards that model the thrill-packed and power-filled way of the mythical shaman. “

 

True indeed. It is however, fantasy. If a child believes that these things are real, they had a previous problem that had nothing to with Harry Potter or D&D.

 

“In this fantasy world, adults and children alike are led into imagined experiences that create memories, build new values, guide their thinking and mold their understanding of reality. “

 

No, it molds their creativity, not their grasp on reality. Saying so only shows your general lack of understanding on the subject.  For the most part any values that are learned are good ones. A common misconception (among zealots such as Jack Chick) is that the game is about back-stabbing and back alley carousing. The is not like this. Once again, if you were actually informed enough to write an article you might understand this. Clearly you do not.  The game generally involves players taking up the mantle of hero, and pursuing the moral high road. 

Todd, what evidence do you have to support your personal opinion? Do you have any valid statistical studies? Did you see the studies that support my position?

 

And why would advertisers spend billions for clever ads that bring suggestions through captivating images rather than through factual arguments?  Think about it. Keep in mind that people today (trained to respond more to feeling-based images than facts) remember suggestions that stimulate emotions far better factual information. Indeed, the ads are designed to produce new values (for the product marketed) and new beliefs (that somehow that product will bring happiness).

 

Recently Hollywood has been enlisted to help our government gain support for its anti-terrorist efforts. Both movie producers and the media know how to change values through images and suggestions that may have little basis in facts.   

This process is reinforced by innumerable other occult images and suggestions created by an entertainment industry eager to please a global market -- a worldwide base of potential customers that favor "inclusive" and "tolerant" pagan entertainment and turn their backs to Biblical values. 

 

Dribble and hogwash. Throughout my childhood I played Dungeons and Dragons, read the fantasy genre devoutly went to church, and made a hard effort to be a good Christian. The only thing that EVER wanted made me want to turn my back on the church was the politics and backstabbing that took place among congregation.  Strangely the hypocrisy that I witnessed in the church was far worse that anything my friends and I experienced as we drank coca-cola, ate pizza, and told fantastical stories on Friday nights. 

Again you are drawing conclusions based on a single experience: your own. That kind of statistical study carries little weight in this argument, Todd.

In the toys and games industry, two trans-national giants have been swallowing up most smaller companies: Mattel and Hasbro. The latter bought Wizards of the Coast, which makes and distributes role-playing games and cards for Pokemon, Magic the Gathering, and D&D fans around the world.  What's more, Warner Brothers -- producer of the Harry Potter movie scheduled for release next year -- granted Hasbro licensing rights to produce a variety of Harry Potter toys and games. Pagan fun has become big business!   

 

No. Fun is big business, it always has.

Todd, visit the children's section of a bookstore -- or look at a catalog for Scholastic, the most popular publisher for classroom books. In the wake of Harry Potter's success, we see a flood of books on witchcraft and paganism.

You are simply trying to shed the two in a bad light. Which you have failed to do. The fact is, Dungeons and Dragons is very responsible for my intellect today. I learned a lot during my formative years from the game. My imagination grew by leaps and bounds, I wrote short stories, I even wrote short stories for my Sunday School class.  Harry Potter, which he come more recently, has served a wonderful purpose. My son loves to read now. He loves to be read to. He problem solves, and eagerly learns the terminology of new words in the novels as we come across them.

 

He hesitated a moment, then answered, "A sun god."

"Like the one in the Aztec and Mayan religion?"

"No, those are too violent. It's more like a Celtic god."

"The Celts were pretty violent too."

Indeed they were.  What about the Crusades? Weren’t those violent? Wasn’t that done in the name of God?  You can play tit for tat all day in this area.

Please see Biblical versus Cultural Christianity where I answer that question.

 


From Jocelyn: Look, are you guys in charge of this site? LISTEN TO ME. I AM FURIOUS WITH THIS SITE. Yeah, right, Harry leads us to witchcraft. I am a Catholic, a Christian, and full-heartedly believe in my religion. My fave musical is Godspell, about Jesus, and I altarserve, pray everyday, and sing songs from my religion. Also, my fave books are the Harry Potter series.


Are you saying that because kids love Harry Potter and other fantasies that they will want to be witches? Get a grip; we KNOW that it's fiction! Right, oh Hogwarts exists and we want to go and kill people with the Avadra Kevadra spell. If Satan is lurking, why would he waste his time on Harry Potter books? They're not leading us to sin; the people who believe the books are evil...they're the ones that are leading us to sin!

Jocelyn, please read what God tells us about witchcraft, divination, magic or sorcery and necromancy in Deut 18:9-12.  Notice that He refers to such practices as an "abomination." In other words, He despises it.

 

Then read Rom 12:2-9. Here He tells us to "abhor what is evil" and "cling to what is good." If, in your imagination, you delight in what God abhors, you are not following Him.  Jesus gives us an example of the importance of the imagination when He tells us, "everyone who looks at a woman to lust for her has committed adultery with her already in his heart." Matt. 5:28  It's a good reminder to girls not to dress as living temptations to the guys, making it more difficult for them to follow God's ways.

Now that you've done this, kids are getting mad at Christians. People are saying I am an idiot and a fool because I'm a Christian. Kids at my school bug me and I say, "Hey listen. I love Harry Potter, and I have nothing to do with this!" I love God, I love Jesus, and I hate your stupid comments saying that if we read Harry Potter we're going to go to hell!


Stop this nonsense. Tell everyone who thinks Harry Potter books are evil about my e-mail. I will fight for this. I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus. I pray. I give to charity. And I'm not going to let people destroy the books children love!         

You say you are a Christian, Jocelyn, so you may appreciate this reminder of what it means to follow Jesus and bear His name:

  "If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.... If they persecuted Me they will persecute you... for they do not know the One who sent Me."  John 15:20-21


From Hi_2k: I would like to say a few things about your "interpretations" of various fads such as "Harry Potter". You have said that these can lead to various occults involving demon worshiping to human sacrifice.

Actually, that's not what I said. Please read my three Harry Potter articles.

What you have not said is how these promote literacy, imagination, and sharing, and how Christianity itself can be used as lures into "Satan's Realm". For example, the recent World Trade Center attacks were carried out in the name of Allah, the god of the Islamic tradition, a notable offshoot of Christianity and Judeaisim.

Allah is not the God of the Bible. He is one of many of the world's gods whose hatred for Christianity has led to intense persecution and terrifying slaughter of those who refuse to submit. Please read Four Faces of Islam

 

For another thing, my younger sister was a reader, but most of the time you had to force her before she read something. We handed her a "Harry Potter" book, told her to at least try it, and now we have regular trips to
the bookstore. "Animorphs", another topic of your "Righteous" and "Religious" bashing, is and was nothing more than a Sci-Fi book for children. It has all the positive attributes noted for "Harry Potter".

Both sets of books appeal to a child's quest for occult mysteries, supernatural power and forbidden realms. Not only do they captivate minds, they shape goals and values -- and they immunize children against the Biblical "absolutes" (unchanging truths and values) that made America unique, strong and good -- a refuge for persecute and oppressed people around the world.

 

With the influx of paganism and acceptance of occult thinking, this nation is becoming increasingly violent. Freedom is being replaced by government control. The kindness and civility that was normal to our culture is disappearing. Those are consequences of turning from God's truths to a humanist ethic and politically correct global values. See Paradigm Shift: Total transformation and Biblical versus Cultural Christianity


From Viet Ngo: I've bookmarked [your site], and I intend to be back soon and often. Keep up the good work, and don't ever let the hate mail get to you!

That's not to say, though, that I completely agree with you -- I think you're reading too much into stuff. To a certain degree, you're always going to find what you're looking for; it's all in the interpretation. It boils down to not over-analyzing things...to be honest, it kind of undermines your overall credibility. I probably would have dismissed your site if I'd started with the Star Wars article -- fortunately, I read the Harry Potter one first, and I agree with that one. 

I apologize if I'm sounding all high and mighty; I'm certainly no theological expert, and I'm not that far past being a kid myself. But I kinda felt that it would be wrong for me to just browse on by without telling you about my reservations.

Thanks, Viet. You sound kind and thoughtful, not "high and mighty." I appreciate your encouragement. Are you from Vietnam? 

Both my parents are from Vietnam, but I was born in California and have lived there all my life.


From Kacie: I'm twelve and a Christian, and I would have to disagree with the fact that you say that Harry Potter is luring children to witchcraft, and that Harry Potter is bad and evil.

You said in one of the comments that: you were concerned that the book will turn children in Christian homes away from Jesus Christ.  Well, I am a Christian and reading Harry Potter did not, I repeat, DID NOT change that thought that I am a follower of Jesus Christ.  Even my friends that attend my church think this was a good book, knowing them as well as I do, they didn't start praticing witchcraft after reading the book.

Kacie, what does being "a follower of of Jesus Christ" mean to you?

 

If you accepted the Bible as a standard, you would have to agree that the witchcraft itself -- or love for stories about witchcraft -- clash with God's Word.  Just read Deut 18:9-12 and Rom 12:2-9.  And if you don't take His Word seriously, how can you know where He is leading you? And how can you follow if you don't know His way?

 

May I suggest that you pray and ask that He show you His way. It sounds as if you listen more to your friends than to Him. Conforming to the crowd and doing what's popular is rarely His way. Remember what He said about the wide and the narrow road. Which one have you chosen?

Some people may ask why Rowling wrote about such a thing of magic and such, well, a book like this keeps childrens attention, and makes it so they want to read, so they want to find out what happens after each chapter. And most likely, they don't turn the page of the Harry Potter Books so they can find out how to cast a spell, and anything of that sort!

What do you expect a child to do at a young age when he or she doesn't want to do anything but read books (Yes, I am talking of Harry Potter.) that have nothing to do with their religion, are you going to pull them away from there book unwillingly and tell them they're a bad person if they read it?

Imagine this, say you weren't a Christian and you wrote the Harry Potter book series (and you wrote it only to give children something they would want to read), and one day you decide to go online and find some comments about what you wrote, and only to find that someone is saying that the book is luring children to witchcraft, and saying book is bad and evil? How would you feel?

Thank you for your time.

I show what I would do in Bewitched by Harry Potter and Harry Potter and Dungeons & Dragons: Like Peas in a Pod? If you haven't already, please read those articles.


From Kenneth A. Lower: The following is the opinion of a Christian who is, by no means, "The Poster Child" for the faith. I encourage and desire dissenting opinions. Now in my mid-thirties, I spent countless hours in high school playing the game Dungeons and Dragons (D&D). At the time, I was a "cultural Christian," but had no true understanding of what being an "actual Christian" was. However, although I don't, I would have no problem playing the game even today.

D&D is, in some respects, far more "dangerous" than H. P. or Animorphs (sp?) could ever dream of being. In the game of D&D, one "becomes" the magic-using (witch, warlock, wizard, what-have-you) character (some of the "spells"
involved in the game are, quite obviously, utterly Unchristian (involving the summoning of demons, et cetera). However, I believe that these things are to be taken in an overall perspective.

If Christian parents want to protect their children from, what I believe to be, the VERY REAL dangers of the occult, they must begin with a strong faith base. If the home is one dedicated to Christ, the children will be exposed to that 24/7, whereas contact with H. P., or what-have-you, is only temporary.

Faith is not like fantasy. Faith is, properly, based on intellectual reason, historical fact, and Truth (capitalization of the word being significant). A person (adult or child) with a strong background in Truth will know when to "draw the line," and where that line lies for him/her (some can involve themselves to a great extent in fantasy without endangering themselves Spiritually, while others cannot).

By doing our best, as parents and as human beings, to emulate Christ, we set the standard in God's name. Truth is not, nor could it ever be, endangered by fantasy.

I respectfully submit that your H.P. website provides a valuable service, yet, at the same time, a disservice. One who wants to know how to protect oneself from the occult needs look no further than the pages of The Bible.

We Christians are called upon to stand against evil; true; however, we need to pick our battles. The weapons of Spiritual Warfare are faith and prayer, not unrelenting rhetoric (not that this is what you are, personally, doing). When we, allegedly in the name of God, fail to remember the most important law: love, we sometimes, oft inadvertently, misrepresent Christ.

Thank you, Kenneth. Would you like me to post your letter? I would be glad to respond to some of your comments. But first, I have one question. You say, "I respectfully submit that your H.P. website provides a valuable service, yet, at the same time, a disservice. One who wants to know how to protect
oneself from the occult needs look no further than the pages of The Bible."

Would you please explain what you see as "a disservice"? Thank you.

I, most assuredly, meant no disrespect nor "attack." I would humbly suggest that you might want to consider adding to your disclaimer about how you are not attempting to ban H.P. with your page. Rather than jumping right into H.P., or any other subject for that matter, I would propose that you include advice about where to find Truth on ANY issue: The Bible.

Thanks for your response; hope you will address the rest of the issues I raised too (re-included below); In Him,

Kenneth, I will try to get back to your letter tonight. If I can't, I hope I can tomorrow.

 


Martel:  I doubt I'll be able to add much after the vast hail of comments you've recieved already, but  As for Harry Potter, this is a tricky one, mainly because J.K.Rowling doesn't specify the source of magic in her world.

That's right, but when you see reality from God's perspective as shown in the Bible, you realize there are only two sources of supernatural power: God and Satan. The two are not equal in any way. God is the Creator of everything, and He is far greater. He also sets the boundaries for Satan's influence in the world. The latter tends to operate in secret, ofent masquerading as "an angel of light." These practices are part of his Satan's domain:

"There shall not be found among you anyone who... practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.  For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord...." Deuterononmy 18:10-13

I've only read the first book (and, frankly, I think it's been rather over-hyped, but that's just a personal opinion), but it seems to me that Rowling depicts magic as a talent: it's inborn, you either have it or you don't- but if you have it, you can learn to control it more effectively, a little like some of us might have, say, aptitude at sport while others do not.

For examples of "inborn" sensitivity to occult spirits, see this description of African witchcraft. It has terrified and oppressed the people for thousands of years: African Witchcraft

As for the idea that it may be pulling youngsters to paganism, firstly: hey! They're just kids, and as such, have an extremely large sense of enthusiasm for whatever may have grasped their imaginations at that particualr moment.

It's not just a notion. It's happening throughout the Western world. Read the first part of Harry Potter Lures Kids to Witchcraft.

I don't have any first hand experience of any pagan cults, but my guess is that this enthusiasm will start to fade severely after they realise just how little accurate divination and enchantment goes on. Secondly, what's so bad about paganism? Last time I checked, we were in a religiously tolerant society, and a lot of Christians believe that it's perfectly possible to achieve salvation without following Yahweh, as long as one does follow a moral lifestyle. Ultimately, it's far better to do the right thing for the wrong reason than the wrong thing for the right reason.

  Finally, I appreciate that your articles were aimed at parents, rather than at the gaming community, but I still feel that maybe you should loosen up a little. One of the reasons people get involved in the gaming hobby is that it provides a parallel world, a way in which we can bring our dreams- or even our nightmares- into being, just for a while. It acts as a focus for our imagination, our originality, and can act as a valuable stimulus for both.

Please be sure to read the section on African Witchcraft. As for the your last point, read Harry Potter and the Power of Suggestion


Second letter from Lauren Foagazzi: I have more to say about harry potter and also post this please. God well i really don't know when he was born i don't really think he was born he is just a spirit. Well i can tell you that christ was not born on december 25th. He was born i think in feb. Well i was a big bible freak till i was 7 and saw no point in going with ALL of gods veiws. There was to much to explore in life than reiling on the bible for every second of my life.

 

I started exploring different books and playing more and having fun. Now I have a new theory about how the world was made the big bang. That is the only explainable reason. If god was really the one who made earth than how did he do it. I don't beleive that he made the world but made the planet become alive with color!

Lauren, God is God whether you believe it or not. Your thoughts cannot create or change the realities of the world He created. Children may believe in tooth fairies, but their thoughts -- contrary to some popular New Age notions -- cannot produce such a supernatural being. Nor can people eliminate God by denying His existence.

 

Believe Him or not -- but if you (whom He has created) choose to live as if He doesn't exist, you become the loser, not He. He has promised amazing peace and joy to those who will follow Him, but those who rebel against Him will face unthinkable consequences. You and I may choose which way to turn. 

But I beleive that your veiws on Shrek and Harry Potter are just evil thought to bring some great sucess down. I think that you knew J.K rowling and know are jeulous of her. I pity your thoughts and dreams about everything and let god be with you. Like i said please be kinder and don't bring evil veiws on something you don't know about. I don't care if you read it. I bet you loved the books and only want to be faithful to your so called god. You probably laughed at the funny parts and brought down the parts with evil and so calle dshape shifting but it is not. Good day and let god be with you :)

 


From Lauren Foagazzi: I have read your quotes over and over and laughed till I cried! The Bible is not always right. What do you think god wrote it?

Did you mean "why"? First, to teach us the truth about Himself -- His wonderful love as well as His high standard and painful disciplines when we, as His children, reject His wisdom and purpose.

 

Second, to show us the way to eternal life with Him.

 

Third, to encourage us with His promises, His guidelines and a deepening understanding of the amazing privilege of being one with the King of the universe.

And you said in your comment section that the only safe place was with Jesus well that ain't true. If you have read the bible it says SOME WHERE  that god said" Thowe will have no other god before me" Well look at all those gods christens have. You complain and complain that Harry Potter LURES KIDS TO WITCHCRAFT AND WIZARDY, Kids don't have to read  the bible and follow what it says. It is called in the U.S.A people have a freedom of speech and can do almost anything they want to. Like I said the bible is not always right and kids don't have to follow  biblical values. And at the End of the veiwers comments you said "Since many visitors who disagree with our position on Harry Potter and witchcraft" I have to say almost evryone in america loves Harry Potter except stuck up christians like you who can't take a little break from reality. I am not christian(thank god) I am wiccan. The books do not emphasise evil they emphasise good over evil. Like lord voldemort and harry. Voldemort is bad and harry not Harry always wins.


It is a fiction suspense thriller. It is where everybody can take a break from reality. Lots of christian kids I know some did sneek harry potter books and read them and told there mothers and fathers to read
them (remember the moms and dads didn't want there kids to read it) and they said it was a wonderful peice of fiction and a break from reality. Like i said i am wiccan and I am a witch so while you are critsizing the books you are also critising religions,kids and lots of people in the world. Please consider this letter and take your awful and unholy comment of of your christian brain washing page.

Lauren, I realize that the what I call holy you would call unholy -- and vice versa. I worship the Biblical God and you, since you call yourself wiccan, probably worship either a personal or an impersonal goddess. Spiritually we cannot agree, but we can still be kind to each other.

 

I have had friendly discussions with many witches -- both male and female. You can read about some of those encounters in A Twist of Faith, Chapter 1 and Chapter 4.  They may help persuade you that I am not trying to restrict you or deny your freedom to pursue your own goals or delight in Harry Potter's wizardly world.

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From Melanie: "hi!! i'm from austria (europa). my mother tongue is germany. this is the reason why i'm not very good in english. but i will try not to do many mistakes. i'm a big harry potter fan and so i found your page. i don't understand every word, but i know that you think that harry potter is bad. BUT IT ISN'T!! have you ever read one of the books?

Of course. I read them all, Melanie. How else would I be able to quote and analyze them? 

 

We disagree because we see both reality and fantasy from two different perspectives (or points of view). As a Christian, I use the Bible as my standard for what is good and evil. I'm not sure what standard you use, but most young people today have learned (especially through their government schools) to base their values on personal feelings and the consensus of their friends and peers. The latter changes with the changing cultures while God's trusted and tried values are as perfect today as they were thousands of years ago. See Col 2:8

 harry potter is a young boy who wants to by a normal boy, but he isn't.  a black wizard tried to kill him when he was a baby.  now, ten years later he wants to come back. but harry and some ofther good wizard don't want this, so the fight against voldemort (the black wizard). it is a very good book, and think you shouldn't say it's bad, because you even not read it!! and this is VERY unfair!!!!   nice greatings from austria (i hope i don't make many mistakes)

Might it be a bit unfair and unwise, Melanie, to accuse me of not reading the books? Though you don't agree with me, I do know a lot of things you don't know. Believe it or not, I'm older and wiser than you. :-) Be careful not to close your mind to all opinions that clash with your own. You would be wise to try to understand my position. See What it means to be a Christian and Isaiah 5:20.


From an "Angry Reader of Your Articles:  I am writing to tell you some of the reasons that you are wrong about harry potter. First of, you always use quotes from children that are praising harry potter and twist them to make them seem evil.

Are your referring to the letters in the Comments section or in my articles?  Both show many more positive responses to Harry Potter because that is what I see and receive.  Apparently, most children who share their opinion  do so in defense and praise of Harry Potter.  But when Christian children love wizards and their occult power, they cannot love God's Word.  Instead they learn to reinterpret the Bible in order to justify their choices. And you cannot love and follow God if you ignore or twist His Word. See Psalm 119:11

as for the quotes that say the children wish they were witches and wizards, well children will be children. The children know that magic is not real, but that is the reason that they are so fascinated by it. I also noticed that in some of your quotes you added some things of your own to them as to make them sound more evil.

Could you please give me an example? I can't respond to your correction unless you point out the specific error.

 The worst part about it is that the things you add are completely wrong. In one quote you add in that professor Lupin( one of harry's teachers) is a shape shifter. Well he's not a shape shifter, he's a warewolf, neither of which is a bad thing. I will refuse to listen to yours and others oppinions of harry potter until you have sat down and read all of these books with an open mind.

I agree that Lupin is a werewolf. But remember, this is fantasy, not reality. You are allowing a fictional book to define words for you. In the real world of paganism, shape-shifting includes all kinds of mythical beings and visionary shamans or witchdoctors who claim to change their shapes.

 

Of course, no living being can really change back and forth between a human body and an animal body.  Real witchdoctors or shamans only seemed to do so by putting themselves into a trance and receiving occult visions through spirit possession. These paragraphs from "The Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft" by Rosemary Ellen Guiley illustrates the supposed shape-shifting from human to wolf:

"Shape-shifting (metamorphosis):  In the Middle Ages and renaissance, many believed that witches could assume the shape of an animal.... A woman imprisoned on suspicion of witchcraft 'claimed to be able to transform herself into a wolf. The magistrate promised not to have her executed, in case she would turn into a wolf before him. The witch rubbed her head, neck and armpits with an ointment and fell into a deep sleep for three hours. She could not be roused by 'noises or blows.' When she awakened, she claimed that she had turned into a wolf, gone a few miles away and killed a sheep and a cow. The magistrate investigated and discovered that a sheep and cow in t he location described by the witch had indeed been killed. It was evident that the Devil 'did that mischief' and that the witch had merely experienced the dreams and delusions created by Satan.

"In shamanism, shamans metamorphose (shape-shift) into their guardian animal spirits or power animals (animals form who m they derive their chief power). The shape-shifting is done in an altered state of consciousness."  page 225-227


 

From Meghan: I honestly laughed over your articals on Harry Potter! Every single person I know who reads those books absolutely LOVES them! A huge group of my friends and I discuss them regularly during our lunch break. They are in the school library, awaiting people to check them out.

Meghan, how do you decide what is good or bad?  Do you base your values on what your friends like? On what's popular? On what feels good? Or don't you think about that?

 

God tells us to base our values on what He considers good and bad. He warns us not to be led like sheep by peers who don't know Him or His ways. Please read Psalm 1:1-6 and Col 2:8.

Did I mention that I go to an all girls Catholic high school? Or that teachers have recommended them to us? Of all the numerous friends I have at this school, (surprise surprise!) not one of them, since opening Harry Potter. have decided not to be confirmed, or that they should join the occult? Since you have asked us to be open minded, how about you go to your book shelf, take down that Harry Potter book, and read it as a NORMAL person would- simply to enjoy the wonderful adventures that Harry Potter enjoys! If you can't enjoy them, I honestly feel sorry for you.

 


From James (See his first letter):  Sure, Andy (or Berit?) post away. And, I owe you an apology. I was a bit harsh yesterday.

I would like to say to you both that I'm not looking to make y'all my adversaries. I hold no ill will nor hard feelings towards either of you; I respect you for holding to your beliefs, even if I don't agree with them, and I hope you respect me with the same understanding for sticking to mine. I'm sure you're familiar with the line about the Lord working in mysterious ways.

We are, and we probably interpret it in different ways.

We're all here for a reason and I believe that the majority of us are on the same side. I agree that the world is heading down a grim road and the atrocities we read about daily are grievous, but the character Harry Potter is not evil. In fact, he and his friends do their level best (after all, they're only 12 or so years old,) to fight the evil being(s) of their realm. If they do it by waving their wands around, why is that wrong? The ends are the same, but the means may vary.

No, James. The ends are as different as they can possibly be. That's why Christian love means sharing the truth as well as His kindness. See What it means to be a Christian

We all need to work together as one to make a positive change. "We are all enemies of the One Enemy" as Tolkien wrote in "the Lord of the Rings."  The saying holds true not only in that fictitious work but in our real lives as well. All the faiths need to band together in order to save ourselves from destruction. Teamwork, Andy. Teamwork, Berit.  

One last thought: The last line of the Wiccan rede runs thus: "If it harms none, do what ye will." It would seem they're on our side, too. Not too shabby for a bunch of pagans. Thank you,

Thank you, James. May I suggest you also read The UN Plan for Your Mental Health?


From Mark Adamson: I would just like to answer a point you make on one of the hp pages, the one titled "Harry Potter lures Kids to Witchcraft. Now I'm not saying whether harry potter does or doesn't lure kids to witchcraft. It didn't lure me, but then at 17 I'm slightly more able than some of the younger readers of the series to discern between fantasy and reality.

The images and suggestions that come to your mind through fantasy have been just as effective - if not more so - as those in non-fiction (or actual reality) in changing a person's values. Don't be so confident that you know it all. At 17 you still have a lot to learn. 

The point I'd like to answer is the one where you show a quote from the author, JK Rowling, who talks about letters she has recieved from children asking to be accepted to Hogwarts, because they believed it was a real place.

This reminded me of something I read a few years ago in the back of an Enid Blyton book. I'm sure you've heard of Enid Blyton, she spent her life writing the most fantastic childrens' stories. I was a huge fan of her books for a long time, and I still dig them out and reread them every now and again.

The particular book I would like to tell you about is one from the St Clare's series. These were a set of books written about a boarding school, and the various adventures had by the girls who went there. There was nothing magical at all about these stories, they were perfectly normal girls at a perfectly normal school. In the back of one of the books there was a note talking about how popular the stories had become. In fact, it mentioned that many girls had written to Enid Blyton, asking how they could enrol at this school, because they firmly believed it to be a real place.

There was nothing wrong with these girls, they were just young, and naive, and didn't realise that these were works of fiction. I would imagine this is the same as the situation with the harry potter stories. Therefore I don't think that the point you made about children believing in Hogwarts is entirely valid, although I would like to hear your views on the topics I have raised. I'll keep an eye on your comments pages :)

You helped make my point, Mark. Thanks. Actually, even adults write questions to movie studios for personal information about a particular fictional place or character. The images and personalities they saw seemed to real that they evoked genuine emotional responses in the audience. That's the key to popular books and entertainment these days, isn't it? And young people -- trained in public schools to filter everything through their feelings -- are likely to embrace "feel-good" perceptions without much rational consideration.  See Brainwashing in America


From Meghan: I honestly laughed over your articals on Harry Potter! Every single person I know who reads those books absolutely LOVES them! A huge group of my friends and I discuss them regularly during our lunch break. They are in the school library, awaiting people to check them out.

 

Did I mention that I go to an all girls Catholic high school? Or that teachers have recommended them to us? Of all the numerous friends I have at this school, (surprise surprise!) not one of them, since opening Harry Potter. have decided not to be confirmed, or that they should join the occult? Since you have asked us to be open minded, how about you go to your book shelf, take down that Harry Potter book, and read it as a NORMAL person would- simply to enjoy the wonderful adventures that Harry Potter enjoys! If you can't enjoy them, I honestly feel sorry for you.

I see your credentials, but doubt that God is impressed. He wants us to follow Jesus and know His Word, not conform to our peers and fill our minds with the world's feel-good ideology. 

You and I are both open-minded to certain things and closed to others. We open our minds to what we love and close them to what we don't want. It all depends on our world view. See Paradigm Shift. Those who love God will be open to His Word and follow His leading from day to day. They will also be open and ready to sharing His love, truth and resources with whomever He puts in their lives.

Those who don't love God (which implies obedience as well as faith) will be closed to His Word but open to all the seductions of the world. Please read Harry Potter and the Power of Suggestion.

The only safe place is with Jesus. May I suggest you reconsider your choices? See What it means to be a Christian.


From Cindy: I respect your opinions of books and movies, it is fine that everyone has his or her own ideas. But I think you are too serious about the Harry Potter books and its movie. J. K. Rowling is only a writer who wants children and adults to enjoy her books and the books do no harm to the minds of children. I have the four Harry Potter books and I enjoy reading these books.

 

 I suspect you do not read all of Harry Potter books and you are just jealous of the success of the books. Please do not attack J.K. Rowling blinded by your hate and you should see the books as fictions. I hope God will come to you and tells you not to pretend to be his followers.

 

Cindy, what does the word "respect" mean to you? You say you "respect" my opinion, yet you tell me I'm "blinded by hate" and "jealous" of Rowling's success. Do you respect what is hateful? Or is "respect" just a buzzword that you and others throw into your comments in order to sound nice when you're actually angry. 

 

Could you cite some sentences that tell me that I'm blinded by hate? If I mistakenly gave that impression, I would like to correct it. I'm just curious, because so many of you claim to be respectful when your letters show the opposite.   

 

Let's at least try to show kindness to each other even if we don't agree.


From James: Hail, and well met!  It seems that the best way to write this message would be backwards. That's right: start with closing thoughts and work my way back to the greeting. Don't ask why. Even if I could put it in words, you probably wouldn't understand. Oh, you might if your collective brains weren't wired to such a narrow bandwidth, but I'm just guessing there. So, to help y'all out, I'll go about it in the standard fashion. 

For starters, I'm a recovering Catholic. Mom tried her best but failed miserably. I did my best to let her down easy-like. I'm also a former U.S. Marine. I've had visions, out-of-body-experiences, precognitive occurrences (too many to think about,) and have been exposed to many and varying cultures. About 13 years ago I totalled a vehicle, flipped her up on the passenger side, slid through a passing lane and spin around a couple times without hitting any other vehicles or rolling down the 50 foot high embankment on the far side. I walked away unscathed and very nearly unaffected. I was saved by... let's call it The Universe (if you prefer to think of it as "God" then have at it. Whatever works for you.) 

I've read some of your columns regarding the Harry Potter books, Dungeons & Dragons, etc.... I fell out of my chair laughing. Literally. Your views are not only laughable, they're counter-productive for a modern human being to live by.  I've read the H.P. books numerous times, and I spent a vast amount of time playing D & D in my youth and onward (I'd still play if there were people to share with.) I'll tell you something, the people you read about that went over the edge from reading or playing must have been a few tacks short of a box to begin with. Some of the things you could learn from either books or game: Teamwork (and conversely, how to think and work for one's self.) Both linear and fractal thinking (seeing the "big picture" if you will.) Trust. The value of a dollar (okay, a gold piece, but it works out the same, just do the math.) 

I have a five year old daughter, and in time I will pass on my beloved books and games to her, teaching her as best I can the things I have learned. I am proud to support these books and games and will climb the mountain to defend them against radicals like yourselves. Other religious greats have praised these books, you said so yourselves. Maybe you should listen to them. Your God speaks through them as well, doesn't He?

God told us to evaluate everything we hear using His Word as a standard. He also told us to guard against deception -- against all kinds of messages based on "the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." (Colossians 2:6-9)  Some of those deceptions come from within within the church and sound very much like the truth. They may even "sound" nicer and more noble than God's truth. One example would be today's politically correct values that ignores sin and justifies destructive lifestyles.  

But this shift away from truth has been repeated many times through the centuries. That's why history tells us some sad stories about "Christian" groups and cultures that failed failed to follow Jesus and brought dishonor to our Lord. See Biblical versus Cultural Christianity. So to help each other be true to His Word and stay on track, we need to,   

"Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things..."  2 Timothy 4:2-5


Second letter from Monica (below):  

Note: Since many visitors who disagree with our position on Harry Potter and witchcraft call themselves Christians, I asked Monica to answer a few questions. She kindly did so. Her answers show the post-modern view of Christianity and help explain the changing nature of the church. You may want to compare her statements with the more traditional view in What it means to be a Christian. The bold letters are my attempt to emphasize the points that especially identify the post-modern view: 

 

1. How do you become a Christian?"

Monica: I became a Christian through my up bringing. When I was very young my parents taught me to pray and to always go to church. I think the majority of Christians are that way. There are people who go through a tough time and realize they need God badly and find peace while praying and going to church.

What are your favorite Scriptures?

Monica: I don't really have any favorites, but I do like Exodus, John and Psalms.

Who is Jesus Christ to you?

Monica: Jesus Christ is my role model, my comforter, my light in the darkness and my 'shelter in the rain'. He's my role model because I have to try to be more like Him. I try to follow His example. He's my comforter because it's always nice to know that when everyone seems to be upset at me or holding a grudge against me, I have Him as a friend. He's my light in the darkness, because when I loose my way, He'll by there to help me find my way. He's my 'shelter in the rain', because the rain is all the difficulties in life, whether they be stress, a lot of work, taking care of sick, big debts, ect. We get soaked with these things, and He won't leave us out in the rain like that, He'll provide a shelter (make things better).

How do you know God's will for you day by day?

Monica: I don't always have to see it, but I can feel it. When I am in trouble and I have done everything I can do, I pray to God, and usually things get better, not in the way I pictured, and not at that time, but God does help. I like to call them my 'mini miracles'. God is always with me, and He doesn't have to prove it to me. It's just something I have my complete faith in.

Thank you, Monica. I appreciate your help.


From Monica Atwood: I stumbled across you site and out of curiosity read a few 'articles' about Harry Potter. (I am a Christian who is very serious about my faith). I am only stating my point of view and mean not to hurt. 

I have read all four books twice and enjoyed every moment. If you're going to criticize Harry Potter and J. K. Rowling, then why not criticize The Hobbit and J. R. Tolkien, Ronald Dahl and every other author who writes books with magical creatures and witches and wizards.

Harry Potter books have brought families together. I have read that parents spend time with their children reading Harry Potter to them. 

Godly families in the Western world don't need Harry Potter as a stimulus to be together. There are plenty of good books to read together without using witchcraft and wizardry as bait. See Mark 12:30 and Phil 4:8

I'm sure if I said, 'It's simply a book,' you'd find many things to say in return. I know many kids my age that would never touch a book before, but they would enthusiastically read Harry Potter. Many children aren't affected by Harry Potter and just consider it a well written book.

Few children realize how they are affected by the occult imagery in the Harry Potter books. Obviously, from all you say, they learn to love Harry's world and accept its values as good -- ignoring Biblical warnings such as Deut 18:9-12 and Rom 12:9.

Harry Potter books are purely imagination. And without imagination, our lives would be completely bland and boring. When I was younger I always imagined magical things and played pretend games. Younger kids are so much richer than us because of their imagination. 

God warns us about the power of the imagination to deceive His people: Genesis 8:21

Harry Potter is a kid that has many problems in his life, and many children could probably relate to him. What if it was Harry was not giving up in a certain situation that strives a child to not give up either? It sounds silly and almost impossible, but what if?

The fact that children can so easily identify with Harry's human problems makes his occult message all the more seductive and destructive to Christian faith.

Many children have heard of witches and wizards and spells and cauldrons from TV, other books and other children before Harry Potter. No one can say they blame it entirely on Harry Potter, that children want to become witches and wizards. It's their imagination that drives them, and who would have the right or courage to criticize and strip them of their imagination. Thank you.

Exactly. "It's their imagination that drives them." And since God warns us in Genesis 8:21 and in many other Scriptures to guard against its power, "serious" Christians had better muster the courage to speak up on behalf of God's truth. God will not be mocked. Galatians 2:7-8

 


See the first item here: The Changing Church


From Lindsay:  Have you ever thought, that maybe, just maybe Christianity isn't the only religion.  Haven't you ever thought that children from another religion, like Jews, or Buddhists, or Islamics, or somebody whose beliefs aren't like yours might stubble upon your site and be brainwashed?  Well, that's what you're saying Harry Potter does.  Here's some reasons Harry Potter DOESN'T promote witchcraft:

 
1.) At Hogwarts, CHRISTMAS is celebrated.
2.) The whole story is about the fight for the Good guys (Harry, and most of the students and teachers and everyone at Hogwarts) fighting against Evil (He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, ect.). 
3.) If you took a poll of kids who read Harry Potter, I'll bet you anything, almost every one of them would be able to tell you who was a good person, who they wanted to be like, and who was a bad person.
4.) I read a poll of readers on a website.  Only 3% of people who took it said they'd consider joining a Wiccan religion, and 98% of those people really hadn't known what Wicca was in the first place
5.) Harry Potter is to Wicca as Barney is to Dinosaurs
6.) You say that kids who read Harry Potter want to become witches and wizards, right?  Well, I read Harry Potter, (#1-76 times, #2-56 times, #3-64 times, and #4-29 times) and I don't want to become a witch or wizard, and still go to church almost every Sunday---TO A CHRISTIAN CHURCH AT THAT
7.) Kids also watch "Making the Band", and you don't see people making a big deal about little boys wanting to join a Boy Band.  We watch "Invader Zim" and we don't want to be Aliens.  We watch "CatDog" and don't want to be Cats.  And even if we did, people wouldn't care.
8.) They're not real!!!
9.) Hey, at least we're reading
10.) Kids who watched Power Rangers were killed in some countries because they wanted to be them, and nobody did anything about it, but when some 7-year-old said he wanted to go to Hogwarts, Christians overreacted and tried to ban the books.  Okay...  Has anybody been hurt?  No...  Has anyone ever been killed because of Harry Potter?  No...  THEN WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL???!!!
 
If you want to go against the books, fine.  But remember, you're also going against a lot of stuff Christians are supposed to believe in.  Good triumphing over Evil, Christmas being celebrated, and Kids learning. 
And, you know what?  Ever since I read Harry Potter, I've understood what they were talking about in Church a lot more.  Want to know why?  BECAUSE MY MINISTER, ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THE CONGREGATION, AND MY SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER HAS READ THE BOOKS!!! and... they're still Christian, aren't they?
 
Please don't take this letter the wrong way.  I'm a huge believer in free speach.  I also believe in God.  I'm still going to church as much, if not more than I used to, and, I read better, and more.  Don't go against something that you don't know anything about.  Maybe adults could learn something from kids.  You go into something with an open mind.  Maybe that's why kids aren't the ones you see being racist and prejudice all the time.  Because that's what you're doing.  Being prejudice against something you know nothing about.
My response to your ten points, Lindsay:

1. Like Hogwarts,  today's schools and culture have little room for Jesus in their Christmas celebration. The world shows far more devotion to Santa, reindeers, food, gifts and an illusion of earthly peace than to the heavenly King who was born in our midst. In addition, remember that the timing of Christmas coincides with winter solstice in pagan cultures around the world. Families around the world now blend the two together into an essentially pagan feast. See Christmas and the links at the top of the page.

2. Like pagan cultures around the world, Harry fights dark magic with what might seem to be white magic. Both represent the occult forces of the evil one -- the demonic realm -- and are forbidden in the Bible.

3. Your statement backs my conclusions, Lindsay. Many would consider Harry Potter and his friends "good." But God's Word tells us that witchcraft and all the occult practices that help Harry win his battles are evil. In other words, the HP books prompt children to turn God's values upside down. See Isaiah 5:20 

4. You don't have to join a coven or call yourself Wiccan to embrace the main tenets of witchcraft and other earth-centered religion. Many who call themselves Christian know little about God and the Bible and have wholeheartedly embraced the basic beliefs behind witchcraft. Just read the first three chapters in A Twist of Faith and see for yourself.

5. Harry is no stuffed animal. He is a likeable flesh-and-blood hero with familiar wants and feelings. The fact that his occult world includes normal facets of human relationships as well as distorted version of Christmas helps readers to enter into his imaginary world and identify with his challenges.

6. Please go back and read what I actually said in Harry Potter Lures Kids to Witchcraft. You have exaggerated and distorted my message so that you could ridicule it. What I did say I also documented. If you disagree, you might want to challenge the Pagan Federation rather than me.

7. It's far easier to identify with Harry Potter's world and friends than with those that your mentioned -- unless you already play a band instrument. That's why is why these books are both more seductive and more effective in changing values. 

8. It is real. Read A Twist of Faith--Chapter 4

9. When I was growing up, everyone was reading. We didn't have Harry Potter. The solution to today's disinterest in reading is, first, to teach phonics in schools so that everyone learns to read. Second, keep children from being addicted to emotional thrills and occult entertainment. There are plenty of good books for those whose minds have not been seduced with today's selections of pagan thrills.  Finally, keep in mind a principle that is true for our minds as well as our bodies: it's better to eat a smaller amount of healthy food than to eat lots of cookies and candy.

10. The Power Rangers were banned from many schools -- not by Christian parents or teachers but by educators who recognized the power of suggestion and didn't want their students to act out what they imagined in their minds. 

You call yourself a Christian, but do you read the Bible as well as Harry Potter? If not, you may want to start with Romans 12:1-9, Ephesians 5 and Deuteronomy 8, 18 and 28. If you haven't already read all my HP articles, please do so. And please pray that God open your mind to His perspective. You might also pray for the humility to admit that people who hold views that differ from yours might actually understand reality better than you. See Proverbs 12:15.


From Karey: I am a Catholic. I have been raised in a Christian house. I am a teacher. And I love Harry Potter. Children (as well as adults) can always misread a book. People can see something that wasn't meant to be there or read what ever they want between the lines. Children need to have make believe in their life. It gives them the opportunity to exercise imagination. This is why a child plays dress up. Why a little girl places a crown on her head and says "look, daddy, I'm a princess." She knows that she isn't, but it's only play. As long as readers understand that what they are reading is fiction. 

 

Harry Potter is fiction, made up, not real. It is also a fantasy book, meaning that not only is the story not real, it is not possible. The children in my class understand this because we have discussed what it means for a book to be a fantasy. C.S. Lewis wrote fantasy, Alice in Wonderland is Fantasy, Peter Pan is as well. I know that a book that discusses witchcraft as an everyday part of life is scary. That is what I thought too. But then I read the books for I knew that I could not have an opinion without doing so. I highly recommend these books, especially to boys. If a parent has a concern about what the books discuss then sit and talk with your child. Use these books as a reason to discuss religion and beliefs with your child. Make it a positive family time. Read them together and enjoy!

 

Karey, I appreciate your sincerity but I wonder if you read any of my articles. As I explain in Harry Potter Lures Kids to Witchcraft and Harry Potter and D&D, fantasies and imagined experiences can be even more effective in changing beliefs and values than real experiences. By delighting in spells and magic, children learn to love what God tells us to shun -- then rationalize their moral and spiritual compromise. You cannot take a stand on God's absolute and unchanging truths with one foot resting in the world of the occult. 


From Kat:  I am writing in response to your articles refering to the popular children's series Harry Potter as something that will "lure" children away from the christian faith.  I'm not trying to say anything to critizise what you believe in this letter. J.K. Rowling has stated many a time that her books are ment solely for the enjoyment of the reader. You state that certain schools have banned the books because they teach things that "clash" with
your religion. They dont teach ANYTHING. 
 

Kat, every show you watch or book you read teach you something -- especially if you really enjoy and feel good about them. They leave images and suggestions in your mind and memory that influence your thinking and affect your values. When Christian children delight in Harry Potter's use of spells and magic, many become fascinated enough with occultism to read the stories over and over. Next, some want to explore this topic more deeply and experience this mysterious power themselves.  Please read  Harry Potter Lures Kids to Witchcraft

 

Our God tells us to have nothing to do with witchcraft, magic, sorcery or spells -- not even in our imagination. Deut 18:9-12   I explain that in the above article. But my message doesn't apply to you, Kat. You have made your choice. Harry Potter would only confirm what you already believe, not change your values. I am not trying to tell you and others what to read.

They mearly present a concept that creates quite a remarkable fantasy world for kids to enjoy. Personaly, I think that as long as you are satisfied with your religion as well as yourself, you shouldn't have to go around preaching against certain things such as the Harry Potter books. Is'nt it enough to know that YOU and your FAMILY are faithful to your religion? I don't think you should be so concerned about other people. Each individual person has the right to chose their faith, and if that faith happens to be pagan, so be it. 

 

But even young children have the right to explore new and different things, and that doesn't mean that they should start casting spells without a second thought. Most religions to day require study and a knowledge of what it's "all about",  as well as wicca, shamanism, etc. but as long as they are dedicated, they can follow what their heart believes in.  And I don't think that you have any right to interfere and tell them it's wrong.  

 

Presently, I am 13 years old and I live in los angeles, a society with MANY different religions. I practice the religion of Wicca, and I am still studying to learn more about it.  The Harry Potter books were very enjoyable, and imagination is a part of a child's life. Don't try to destroy such a wonderful thing.


p.s. you tend to overrate the "dark magic-satanism" thing. I know there are
some people who believe in such things, but face it. Logically, most people are smart enough to avoid that kind of thing, even small children and teens like me. :) Blessed Be.

 

Believe me, I don't underestimate the power of "the dark magic-satanism thing." The Western world has been shielded from the dark terrors of sorcery and shamanism -- and today's media and entertainment leaders distort the truth or argue it away. 

 

To fuel today's quest for a global spirituality that will unify people and promote  worldwide "solidarity," educators have used classroom stories about animist and other pagan cultures to present an idealized form of earth-centered religions, not the real thing.  

 

We saw the cruelty of modern leaders under Satan's control in Hitler and other totalitarian rulers who sought occult powers.  Neither human nature nor satan's tactics have changed much through the years. The evil one still masquerades as "an angel of light" and deceives his followers into believing he will actually deliver the "power" and "wisdom" he promises.  See America's Spiritual Slide and  The Nature and Tactics of Satan.


Angry Reader of Your Articles: I am writing to tell you some of the reasons that you are wrong about harry potter. First of, you always use quotes from children that are praising harry potter and twist them to make them seem evil. as for the quotes that say the children wish they were witches and wizards, well children will be children. The children know that magic is not real, but that is the reason that they are so fascinated by it. I also noticed that in some of your quotes you added some things of your own to them as to make them sound more evil.

 

Please give me some examples. Unless you tell me specifically what you think I did wrong, I cannot explain or respond.

 The worst part about it is that the things you add are completely wrong. In one quote you add in that professor Lupin( one of harry's teachers) is a shape shifter. Well he's not a shape shifter, he's a warewolf, neither of which is a bad thing. I will refuse to listen to yours and others oppinions of harry potter until you have sat down and read all of these books with an open mind. 

I have read the books and you don't need to listen to my views. I surely didn't make you come to our website. That was your choice.

 


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