Quotes and Excerpts



Hi Berit,

So glad you posted the link to the MacArthur/Pagitt clip on your news page!

In addition I found an MP3 link to Doug Pagitt’s off-the-air comments -- the same audio as heard on the youtube broadcast. Here’s the MP3 link: http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/sounds/01pagitt.mp3 The MP3 might also be helpful to have on hand.

As you requested, I also found a transcript of Pagitt’s comments at Apprising Ministries. Below is the transcript and here’s the site link: http://www.apprising.org/archives/2007/09/emerging_church_3.html


Below is a transcription from Apprising Ministries of what Doug Pagitt had to say to an employee of a station affiliated with CNN about Dr. John MacArthur. I’m presenting this right now with no further comment except to say as a pastor-teacher myself this is/was an unacceptable missed opportunity to properly represent Jesus Christ.

Doug Pagitt introduces the audio clip he recorded, which you can download courtesy of Spurgeon.org:

“On Tuesday September 11th I did an interview with Headline News on Yoga and it was with John MacArthur, he’s another pastor and he had an opinion about Yoga not being good for Christians. And I expressed my opinions about it, and we were interviewed–about a four or five minute show–and I’ll put a whole podcast on about the making of that thing. And I’ll ah...”

“But this little piece here is a response of the woman who was recording, or doing the filming, of the...in ‘Mini-apple.’ And I just thought that her response to me after interview–she’s just been very nice and kind–was really interesting. There’s this little part where she says–you might even find it hard to [hear]–she’ll say, ‘That’s the stuff, right there, that keeps younger people from going to church.’ ”

“And she said, ‘That’s just crazy.’ So it’s just kind of a fun little response she was having. I’m not trying to be rude to Dr. MacArthur or anything, but I think her response in just flat out listening to this–I’d never met her before–we just met right there...is really indicative of a lot of things. So this is following–the first bit you hear–is me talking with the people, through the earpiece, in Atlanta.”

“And then she comes in the room and we have a little conversation; about a minute and a half or so. So...here’s that part of it all”:

Pagitt: Yeah, yeah,...well, you’re sure welcome. Ok, so was it on live too, and then be re-aired? Huh; yeah, that’s great. Thanks. Bye-bye.

Woman: [Way to] go.

Pagitt: Well, thanks. It’s just so weird, isn’t it? [background, “Yes.”] To hear people say stuff like that, like what he’s saying?

Woman: [unintelligible] the reason why younger people don’t go to church. You know what I mean?

Pagitt: I do.

Woman: Because everything is so black and white. You know a position has nothing to do with your body and your spiritual th–you kidding me? [Pagitt snickers in the background] Seriously.

Pagitt: Seriously, [mockingly] “if you want to relieve stress go to the Word of God.” [chuckles]

Woman: Yeah.

Pagitt: [snickering] Oh my goodness.

Woman: It’s like, that’s totally separate; how can you even–ah.

Pagitt: Ah, I don’t know; I...

Woman: I’m glad they have you.

Pagitt: Thanks. Thanks, I apologize for him. [laughs]. Ah...

Woman: [sighs] Well, maybe since that was such a nice conversation, they didn’t give us a lot of time, maybe we can see you again–

Pagitt: Maybe we’ll do it again sometime. Wouldn’t that be fun.

Woman: I got your recording so they did go live with it.

Pagitt: Well, that’s nice.

Woman: That’s here... [unintelligible] you have a DVD–

Pagitt: I have a DVD player. Now my phone should start ringing. All my quirky friends calling me.

Woman: “I saw you...”

Pagitt: “You were pathetic.”

Woman: [laughing]

Pagitt: “I told you to sit up.” I can hear it now.

Woman: No, you were great.

Pagitt: Well, thanks.

Woman: And you didn’t sound crazy either.

Pagiit: [laughing] Thanks.

Woman: Like tha’ other guy. But then you get to watch it again, so...

Pagitt: Yeah, watch it over and over.

Woman: An’ wanna make more copies.

Pagitt: Thanks.

Woman: It was cool to meet you.

Pagitt: Yeah, thank you. Good to know you.

Woman: Yeah.

Pagitt: Should I leave the tag with you.

Woman: I’ll take it for ya. Is it easy for you to go out that way?

Pagitt: Go out that door? Yeah, because I’m parked across the street.

Woman: Oh, cool.

Pagitt: Ok.

Woman: Alright, you have a good day.

Pagitt: Thanks so much.


From: Berit Kjos [mailto:berit@crossroad.to]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:06 AM
To: 'Anne Kahn'
Subject: RE: BERIT Listen: D. Pagitt mocking J. MacArthur

Anne, I just posted the link to the video below on our news page: http://www.crossroad.to/News/1-today.htm

I quoted you at the beginning but didn’t include your name. I hope that’s okay.




From: Anne Kahn [mailto:pqi@fuse.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:52 PM
To: Kjos Ministries
Subject: BERIT Listen: D. Pagitt mocking J. MacArthur

Both shocking and pathetic!... Listen to ‘Pastor’ Doug Pagitt in this clip as he mocks and apologizes for Pastor John MacArthur’s Biblical position on Yoga.

This is a 10 ½ minute clip from a CNN broadcast. The first 6 ½ minutes are Pastor John MacArthur and Doug Pagitt, Emergent church leader, expressing convictions regarding Christianity and Yoga.

Beginning at 6:56 minutes, you will hear Doug Pagitt demeaning Pastor MacArthur’s statements made during the broadcast… these comments were made by Pagitt following the televised broadcast… his off-the-air conversation with a CNN film crew employee.

Every Christian should hear this clip, pass it along to every believer they know, share it with church leadership… and discern, discern, discern!

WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24r1LV93IXg&feature=related



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